Death Notice

[shirl27]

Hi

I noticed the Marriage entry by chance and I don't really know anything about the BISHOP family, however I had a quick look on the National Archives site and found the entry below - the name here is CLARK. It appears that Mary Elizabeth was a widow when she married James and her maiden name was Venables.
I also saw a few transcribed Baptisms from the Bloemfontein Methodist Church in case you have not seen them
 
DEPOT     VAB                                                                 
SOURCE    MHG                                                                 
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 0                                                                   
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE C69                                                                 
PART      1                                                                   
DESCRIPTION          CLARK, JAMES. EGGENOTE MARY ELISABETH (GEBORE VENABLES).             
STARTING  18660000                                                             
ENDING    18660000

[Translation :
VAB - Orange Free State Archives
Eggenote - wife
Gebore: born]

Baptisms
139 BISHOP Alfred John
James McKay and Mary Elizabeth 'Benanbles' of Bloemfontein *spelling
b.1869/08/30
Bap.1869/10/03

195 BISHOP George James
James McKay and Mary Elizabeth of Bloemfontein
b. 1872/04/09
bap. 1872/06/16

228 BISHOP Edgar Arthur
James McKay and Mary Elizabeth of Bloemfontein
b. 1873/06/19
bap. 1873/08/03

318 BISHOP Agnes Hannah
James McKay and Mary Elizabeth of Bloemfontein
b. 1875/03/17
bap. 1875/05/12

355 BISHOP Elsie Emma
James McKay and Mary Elizabeth of Bloemfontein
b. 1876/03/14
bap. 1876/03/16
at parents house

356 BISHOP Grace Mary
James McKay and Mary Elizabeth of Bloemfontein
b. 1876/03/14
1bap. 876/03/16
at parents house

468 BISHOP Gertruda
James McKay and Mary Elizabeth of Bloemfontein
bap. 1878/03/11

Regards
Shirley

[iwccc]

Hello from Australia,   thank you so much for your imput.  So interesting to find that Mary Elizabeth was a widow when she married James.  Thank you also for confirmation of the children's dates of birth and baptisms.
Now all I need now is James' birth certificate to see if I can find his parents names. Any idea of how I go about getting one?  thanks again

[shirl27]

Hi

Unfortunately I have had no luck in finding any further information on James M. BISHOP. You won't be able to find a Birth Certificate for him either as the approximate official registration date of births, marriages and deaths in the various provinces are as follows:
Cape: Births 1895; Marriages 1700; Deaths 1895
Natal: Births 1868; Marriages 1845; Deaths 1888
Transvaal: Births 1901; Marriages 1870; Deaths 1901
Orange Free State: Births 1903; Marriages 1848; Deaths 1903
The only other option in my opinion would be to try and find a Baptism Entry for James M. BISHOP.

In an Afrikaans book [translated]"Aspects of the Social Life in Bloemfontein, 1864 - 1871 it mentions various deaths including that of James CLARK who died of a stroke on 9 Feb 1866.

Regards
Shirley

[iwccc]

Hi shirl27,  Thanks again for your help.  Good to get a name for Mary Elizabeth's first husband.
I'll try and get a baptism date from the Methodist Church for James McKay Bishop. Hopefully there  is and I can get his parents names.  Regards

[pvamstel]

Hi there,  Did you get any assistance with this query ?  I am researching the Venables family in South Africa, so came across your mail.  I have come across James McKey Bishop married to Mary Venables dies in 1887.  Must be the same one.  Did you get his death certificate.  if not I am sure I can help.  lyn

[iwccc]

Hi from Australia,  Thank you for your offer of help.  I would be very happy to have a copy of James McKay Bishop's death notice.  Perhaps you could send a copy via my personal contact.
I think I have James McKay's parents worked out now.  They were John (b.1809) and Catherine Shanon.  I am still checking if he had another wife called Ann.  Do you have any information on this?   I would be very happy if you would care to share your research on the Venables side of the family.  Would you have any photos?  I am happy to share any information that I have if you need it.   Thank you for the contact.  Looking forward to hearing from you again.  Cheers

[pvamstel]

Sorry only saw your reply today for some reason.  Do  you still wan these Death Notices ?  His merely lists his parents as unknown  unfortunately.  The attachments don't seem to send off this site, so if  you want me to send them please give me an email address where I can send them to.

[iwccc]

Hello pvamstel,  Yes I would still love to have the Death Notices.  But, my understanding is that I should not send an email address through the Rootschat site.  In the past when people have sent information they have sent it through Rootschat. So I am not sure how we go about resolving this issue.  Perhaps someone "in the know" can advise how to go about this.  Thanks for the reply - would still love to have the information that you have offered.

[pampoen]

Pvamstel needs to make post not a reply then it will show 3 posts under her name. That will allow her to send and receive personal messages via Rootschat.