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John Marks...Orkney to Cornwall
« on: Wednesday 26 October 11 10:10 BST (UK) »
I have recently discovered that an ancestor of mine, John Marks, was according to the English 1841/1851 censuses  born in Newcastle Scotland. He married twice (to Cornish women) and was a copper miner and later a sexton. He was born around 1802. I would like to find out more information on my (unexpected) Scottish relative, does anyone have any advice as to my next step. I have had a brief look at the Scottish censuses of 1841/1851 but the name Marks does not feature, apart from a Daniel Marks who appears to be connected with the prison; and he was born in Ireland!

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Re: John Marks...Orkney to Cornwall
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 26 October 11 10:22 BST (UK) »
Isnt Newcastle in Northumberland.
Russells in Westmorland,Lancashire<br />Rileys Halifax,Rochdale<br />Graingers Hull Yorks<br />Coles Northampton<br />Transcribed the whole of Westmorland 41 census<br />and Rochdale 61 <br /><br />Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: John Marks...Orkney to Cornwall
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 October 11 11:01 BST (UK) »
do you have his marriage certificate to Alice to confirm father's name & occupation? 1841 census has a John & Elizabeth Marks in Camborne who are of an age to be the parents of your John.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: John Marks...Orkney to Cornwall
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 26 October 11 11:29 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Isobelruss on Wednesday 26 October 11 10:22 BST (UK)
Isnt Newcastle in Northumberland.

Google Maps confirms 2 Newcastle's in Orkney?

1851 census confirms Scotland as birthplace.
1861 census confirms Newcastle, Scotland as birthplace.
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Re: John Marks...Orkney to Cornwall
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 October 11 12:09 BST (UK) »
Blimey you live and learn ;D
Russells in Westmorland,Lancashire<br />Rileys Halifax,Rochdale<br />Graingers Hull Yorks<br />Coles Northampton<br />Transcribed the whole of Westmorland 41 census<br />and Rochdale 61 <br /><br />Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: John Marks...Orkney to Cornwall
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 October 11 12:31 BST (UK) »
Mind you, to a Cornish enumerator, Newcastle Upon Tyne probably IS in Scotland?!?! ;D

Many years ago, I overheard the following discussion between 2 gentlemen, in a Cornish Pub:

"Where you going Saturday?"
"Going to England - shopping"

He was going to Plymouth!! :D
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Re: John Marks...Orkney to Cornwall
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 October 11 12:39 BST (UK) »
How true !!!!!! ;D ;D
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Re: John Marks...Orkney to Cornwall
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 October 11 14:37 BST (UK) »
Thank you Osprey; I have applied for the marriage certificate of John and Alice; she was John's second wife,therefore not my direct ancestor but hopefully the info. will help. The 1841 census shows John and his 6 children living in Camborne. His first wife Catharine having died in 1839. However the census shows John's place of birth as Cornwall.  Maybe the enumerator was just a little heavy handed with his ditto's!

In reply to KGarrad and Isobelruss.......yes I did check on google for the scottish Newcastle! Oddly enough I also have relatives who went from Tynemouth to Cornwall. But that's another story!!!

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Re: John Marks...Orkney to Cornwall
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 October 11 14:59 BST (UK) »
Let us know when you have the info from the marriage cert, the witness names may be of use as well. 

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb
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