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Where did Valentine live near Salford?
« on: Tuesday 23 September 14 13:23 BST (UK) »
I am seeking any information about Valentine KELLY born 1q 1895 Salford 8d 85, and her Family.
She was also known as Catheine Valentine KELLY

She married Herbert Cyril SNOOK 2q 1927 Clitheroe 8e 762 - I believe the town was Whatley as her husband was an Army Officer until November 1945. He then became a policeman - in Blackburn. ???

Valentine SNOOK died 4q 1961 Clitheroe 10c 71 - in Blackburn ???

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Re: Where did Valentine live near Salford?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 September 14 13:31 BST (UK) »
Do you have her Marriage Cert, naming her Father ?

If not, do you know any sibling names ?

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Re: Where did Valentine live near Salford?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 September 14 13:34 BST (UK) »
I only have the information for her husband H C Snook as in my first message
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Re: Where did Valentine live near Salford?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 September 14 13:53 BST (UK) »
As you have the birth registration details, then I suggest that your best option is to purchase her birth certificate.

Added:  Lancashire bmd show the registration as Broughton, under Salford.
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Re: Where did Valentine live near Salford?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 September 14 14:02 BST (UK) »
OK, I will put Valentine's BMD`s on my to buy list. ;)
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Re: Where did Valentine live near Salford?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 September 14 14:16 BST (UK) »
Valentine and Henry married at Ribble register office or registrar attended - again Lancashire bmd

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Re: Where did Valentine live near Salford?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 September 14 14:18 BST (UK) »
In the 1901 census, theres a Catherine Kelly c1895 born Salford, living with her GrandMother @ 20, Edward Street, Broughton, Salford  .... her name is Mary Roles ....

so, a Roles to Kelly marriage should reveal more ....

this one fits the dates, but its elsewhere in Lancs ..


Marriages Sep 1894  

Davenport  Herbert    Chorlton  8c 1388   
Green  Mary Elizabeth     Chorlton  8c 1388   
Kelly  Joseph     Chorlton  8c 1388   
Roles  Elizabeth     Chorlton  8c 1388   


Need to work back to see if Mary Roles from the 1901 census has a daur Elizabeth ...

Going back to 1881 - RG11 Piece number 3952  Folio 116 Page 23 still in Broughton, we see that there is indeed a daur of the same Mary Roles - named Elizabeth Roles - born c1875 in Broughton ...

Not conclusive obviously, but given the absence of a Valentine Kelly in the 1901 census, its about as far as possible until you confirm her parents names from a Birth Cert ...


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Re: Where did Valentine live near Salford?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 September 14 14:36 BST (UK) »
1881 census has the following family in Broughton, Salford: -

Charles Roles, 51 house painter b Manchester
Mary Roles 42 b Burton, Staffs
Joseph 19 brush maker b Salford
Charles H 14 errand boy b Salford
Ruth 11 b Salford
Elizabeth 6 b Broughton
Edwin 5 & William 2 both b Broughton

Ref: RG11/3952/116/23
GOATER, LAN, ALL
BOURKE, MAYO/ LAN
LONERGAN, TIP
McGREAL, MAYO
FLAHERTY, GALWAY/ ALL
HOUGH, LAN/ ALL

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Re: Where did Valentine live near Salford?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 23 September 14 14:43 BST (UK) »
Thank you all once again for your help.  :D :D

I WILL buy the missing BMD`s and they should give me the missing pieces that I need.

Muffin41 :D
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