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Sydney Lory Williams - does he belong to anyone?
« on: Tuesday 07 October 14 22:36 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I've been looking at my great-uncle's Australian WW1 service records as today is the 97th anniversary of his death in 1917.

In July 1916, he was recommended for the military medal for bravery, along with another man - Lance Corporal S.L. Williams. So I set off on a hunt to identify this man and am fairly sure that he was Sydney Lory Williams,  born c1890, son of the Reverend W.J. Williams of Christchurch New Zealand.

L/Cpl Williams was awarded the DCM for his actions at Pozières in 1916. For some reason, my great uncle, James Shaw Howe wasn't, though they were named together in the report.

I wonder if anyone has Sydney in their family tree and if so, are there any photographs of him during his military service. There is just the slimmest chance that two men who served side by side, might have been photographed together. I have no photograph of James so am clutching at straws but here, in the world of Rootschat, that isn't always such a silly thing to do!

Fingers crossed,

Jen :)
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
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HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: Sydney Lory Williams - does he belong to anyone?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 October 14 23:33 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Maybe something to be found here??

Honours and Awards - Sydney Lory Williams
Service Number: 1168

Rank: Corporal

Unit: 5th Australian Infantry Battalion

Service: Army

Conflict: First World War, 1914-1918

Award: Military Medal

Date of Commonwealth of Australia Gazette: 12 February 1919

Location in Commonwealth of Australia Gazette: Page 261, position 210

Date of London Gazette: 7 October 1918

Location in London Gazette: Page 11841, position 58


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Sydney Lory Williams - does he belong to anyone?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 October 14 02:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Jen

I see that there is a marriage notice (WILLIAMS-TAYLOR)  (@ TROVE - "Sydney Morning Herald" - 22 September 1921 - page 5 ) -- for Sydney Lory WILLIAMS.

Edited to add:  Link to Australian newspapers (TROVE)

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

It appears that he remained in AUS - (so possibly has family still there ?? ).

His death and funeral notices appear on the Ryerson Index (AUS) :

"Sydney Morning Herald" - 24 October 1974 -- Death Notice
"Northern Star" (Lismore NSW) -- Funeral Notice - 22 October 1974.

At a glance, couldn't see any published family trees ?

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Re: Sydney Lory Williams - does he belong to anyone?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 October 14 02:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Jen

Are you in the UK ?

Here's the link to the Ryerson Index in Australia.

http://www.ryersonindex.org/

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Re: Sydney Lory Williams - does he belong to anyone?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 October 14 02:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Jen  ... just a thought.

I wonder if publishing your query on the Australian Board as well, might assist with locating any relatives of Sydney Lory WILLIAMS ??

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Re: Sydney Lory Williams - does he belong to anyone?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 October 14 03:14 BST (UK) »
Hi again ...

Parents of Sydney Lory WILLIAMS (birth reg. New Zealand 1890 ) :
Alice Mary and William James WILLIAMS.

The following appears to be parents' NZ marriage :

Alice Mary HOSKING - William James WILLIAMS -- 1875




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Re: Sydney Lory Williams - does he belong to anyone?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 October 14 04:45 BST (UK) »
The birth of a son [announced in the 'Press' dated 13.5.1890] on 5.5.1890 @ Timaru.

Many more snippets about the Reverend in 'Papers Past'..............

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Sydney Lory Williams - does he belong to anyone?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 October 14 04:54 BST (UK) »
The registration details of Sydney, and his siblings?...........


1890/8056   Williams   Sydney Lory   Alice Mary   William James   -   
1887/6941   Williams   Bertram Victor   Alice Mary   William James   -   
1878/3817   Williams   Hugh Hosking   Alice Mary   William James   -   
1876/5921   Williams   Harold Whitmore   Alice Mary   William James
   
1880/5254   Williams   Aubrey Lewis   Alice Mary   William James   -   
1885/15892   Williams   Norman Rale   Alice Mary   William James   -   
1882/10406   Williams   Owen Wallis   Alice Mary   William James   -   

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Sydney Lory Williams - does he belong to anyone?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 October 14 05:03 BST (UK) »
Deaths registered in New Zealand:

Owen Wallis, 1970, aged 88 years.

Bertram Victor, 1918, aged 30 years.

Aubrey Lewis, 1961, aged 81 years.


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.