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Title: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: lightningk on Saturday 07 September 13 20:05 BST (UK)
If someone could help!

Im looking into the marriage of

Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois (1839-1889) married Lea Crepeau (cannot find any dates on her)
Joseph and Lea got married on February 12 1861 at St. Alphonse Rodriquez, Quebec
Joseph also married Odile Mireault on Apr 21 1879 in St. Aphonse Rodriquez, Quebec but had no children with her.

Im looking for the names of the children Joseph and Lea had together.

If possible the birth/death of Lea.

Thanks
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 September 13 20:24 BST (UK)
Hi,

Welcome to Rootschat

How about this one ? Montcalm Quebec 1871

Séraph Bourgeois 32  and Lia Bourgeois 27
Ann Bourgeois 8  Aléxis Bourgeois 7
Edwidge Bourgeois 5  Alphonse Bourgeois 3
Marie Louise Bourgeois 11 months

Sandra
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: lightningk on Saturday 07 September 13 20:48 BST (UK)
Yes, this looks like the family I am looking for. Thank You.

Any Info on this family will be greatly appriciated.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: cosmac on Sunday 08 September 13 06:24 BST (UK)
The marriage of Lea gave her parents as Joseph Crepeau and Denise Therrien.  This should be Lea and her family - parents and siblings - on the 1861 Canadian census.  It shows her place of birth as Mascouche.
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/jpg/4108813_00150.jpg

The Drouin collection has records for Mascouche St. Henri.  Given the age difference between Joseph and Denise on the census and the ages of the children the marriage to Denise might be a 2nd one.  The baptism for Eugene in Mascouche St. Henri on 20 July 1849 shows parents of Joseph Crepeau and Jean Marie Allard.  The baptism for Loe Crepeau (that's the way it's indexed by ancestry) at the same church was on 24 Sept 1844 and parents given as Jean Crepeau and Loe Allard.  Baptism for Jean Alphonse Crepeau on 06 May 1841 shows parents of Joseph Crepeau and Louise Terison (?). 

Added:
In 1871 the difference in age between Joseph and Denise has disappeared. 
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/jpg/4395505_00063.jpg
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: lightningk on Sunday 08 September 13 16:59 BST (UK)
This I believe is the family for Lea, Thank you so much! At least it gives me an idea of a birth date for her which I had nothing for. I haven't researched her side of the family yet minus I knew the parent's names I'm working on her husbands side at the moment. Bourgeois.

Sandra gave me the info on the children in 1871, but I have since discovered through a relatives family tree that was done years ago there are 5 more children to this family that I am very curious about names are:

Francois
Louis
Urgel
Leon
Olive

Just trying to confirm they exist and looking for birth dates for them.

Thanks again for your help.
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 September 13 21:03 BST (UK)
Can see a Massachusetts marriage Leon Bourgeois born 1880 Canada and aged 23 years.
Parents :- Father Zeraphin Bourgeois and mother Odile Mireault.
Married 27 July 1903 Lowell Massachusetts to  Emma Gariepy aged 30 years born Canada. Parents :- Francois Gariepy and Spouse Mother Celina Plante.

Sandra

Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 September 13 21:13 BST (UK)
Odile Bourgeois in 1891 - St Alphonse de Rodriguez. Joliette. Quebec.

Odile Bourgeois 51
Leon Bourgeois 11 Son  Odile Bourgeois 7 Daughter
Marime Moreault 78 Born 1813 Quebec. Single. Male. 
Louis Bourgeois 17 Son

Sandra
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 September 13 21:17 BST (UK)
1900 Lowell Ward 7, Middlesex, Massachusetts.

Odlel Bourgois 60 -  February 1840 Canada. immigrated 1900. Widowed. 2 children - 2 living children.
Leon Bourgois 20 Son. Single.
Olive Bourgois 16 Daughter. Single. April 1884.
Tephrina Mosseau 18 Niece. Single.
Rose Mosseau 22 Niece. Single.
Arthur Mireault 18 Nephew. Single.

Sandra
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 September 13 21:22 BST (UK)
Olive Bourgois born about 1885 Canada and aged 25 years. Father Seraphin Bourgeois and  Mother
Odile Mireault married 6 Feb 1910  Lowell, Massachusetts to Jean B Champagne aged 26 years born Like Linden, Mich. Father :- Jean L Champagne - Spouse Mother Ermini Robillard.

Sandra

Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 September 13 21:27 BST (UK)
1910 Lowell Ward 6, Middlesex, Massachusetts. (All born Canada)

John Champagne 27 Labourer. Wine Shop
Olive Champagne 26
Odile Bourgeios 70 Mother-in-law. Widowed. Had 2 children and 2 survive.
Leon Bourgeios 30 Brother-in-law. Married. Barber. Barbers Shop.

Sandra
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 September 13 22:28 BST (UK)
Edwidge Bourgeois - 1901 with husband Charles Mousseau Montcalm Dist Quebec.

Charle Mousseau 47
Edwidge Mousseau 35 born 29 Sept 1866,
Ermina Mousseau 13  Euéne Mousseau 12
Maria Mousseau 5 Edmond Mousseau 1
Almida Mousseau 0  Zepherina Mousseau 19
Rosana Mousseau 23


According to family tree entry - Marriage to Charles Mousseau
30 September 1886 Aged 20 - St-Alphonse-Rodriguez, Joliette, Quebec.
Remarried to Edmond Perreault - Val Gagne (Nushka), Ontario, Canada 1928.
Edwidge died 8th October 1940 - Val Gagne (Nushka), Ontario Canada.
Photo attached to tree entry.

Sandra
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 September 13 22:36 BST (UK)
1891 - Trois Rivières City, Quebec.

Charles Bourgeois 30  Edwidge Bourgeois 22
Marie Louise Bourgeois 5  Donat Bourgeois 3

Sandra
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 September 13 22:54 BST (UK)
There are some baptisms that may be applicable to the family in the Drouin Collection but I can't read French. Can pick up - dix huit - dix = 10 huit = 8 and Mars = March
1868 Alphonse Bourgeois - St-Alphonse-Rodriguez, Québec (Quebec) shows the correct parents.

I think this will be Alphonse - in Saint-Théodore-de-Chertsey Montcalm Quebec in 1901

Alphonse Bourgeois 33  - 18 March 1868 - Cultivator.
Alphonsine Bourgeois 27
Florentrie Miron 1 domicile (not sure what that means  ???)

http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/QuickMatch11.jsp?id=67302


Sandra
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: lightningk on Sunday 08 September 13 22:59 BST (UK)
Oh my Goodness!

Thank you so much Sandra you have been such a great help! You have filled in a great deal of info I've been looking for.

~Kat
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 September 13 23:05 BST (UK)
I am sure one of the fleunt French speaking experts will unravel more  ;D Hope so.

Anne Bourgeois - Baptism - 1863 - St-Alphonse-Rodriguez, Québec (Quebec.
Think this is a Janvier birth = January - perhaps cinq = 5 which would be 5 th January 1863
Parents look correct

Sandra
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: lightningk on Sunday 08 September 13 23:14 BST (UK)
Ive been using a french language translator so much while I've been doing this line of family which has made it an even more slow going process.

Now I just need to find out if Francois & Urgel exist and to which mother they belonged. I was under the impression Seraphin and Odile had no children together but you have since proved that to be untrue.

Thanks again for your help!

~Kat
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 September 13 23:20 BST (UK)
All the census seem to indicate that Odile Bourgeois just had the two children but census can be wrong  ???
Can't seem to find the others at the moment though.  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 September 13 23:28 BST (UK)
Birth of Urgele Bourgeois - Urgele Bourgeois - 1877 - could be 10 Sept 1877
Parents seraphin Bourgeois and Delia Crepeace

There is also a burial - Urgel Bourgeois - St-Alphonse-Rodriguez, Québec (Quebec 1877)  ???  but I can't pick the parents names up in the writing - sorry.

Sandra
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 September 13 23:32 BST (UK)
Francois Bourgeois - Baptism - 1872 - St-Alphonse-Rodriguez, Québec (Quebec
Pretty sure the right parents are mentioned but can't pick up on the date. Could be a Mars = March birth. treize = 13  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: lightningk on Monday 09 September 13 00:07 BST (UK)
Your awesome!

At this point Im just looking for a year to the birth the month isnt a huge deal. treize would be 13 tho. and mars would be march as well.

The Urgele seems likely I bet Lea is short for Delia.

You have found all the children I am looking for thats awesome now I shall move to the next Bourgeois lol.

~Kat
Title: Completed Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: lightningk on Monday 09 September 13 01:59 BST (UK)
 :)
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: chinakay on Saturday 14 September 13 06:20 BST (UK)
Hi gang....I can read the certs for you but not till tomorrow probably. Give me a little while and I'll review the thread and find the PRs. Hopefully the handwriting is somewhat decent :)

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: chinakay on Sunday 15 September 13 02:29 BST (UK)
Hi Kat, let's give this a try.

The 18th March 1868 we the undersigned priest have baptised Alphonse born the day before yesterday of the legitimate marriage of Séraphin Bourgeois farmer and of Léa Crépeau, godfather Alphonse Crépeau, godmother Matilde Prud'homme who along with the father have not signed [they could not write].
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: chinakay on Sunday 15 September 13 02:41 BST (UK)
The 25 January 1863 we the undersigned priest have baptized Anne born 4 days ago of the legitimate marriage of Séraphin Bourgeois farmer and Lia Crépeau of this parish. Godfather Al[something...could be Alois but there seems to be an extra letter, not a familiar name] Bourgeois, godmother Anne Carrière who along with the father have not signed.
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: chinakay on Sunday 15 September 13 03:25 BST (UK)
And here's Francois:

The 13 March 1872 we etc etc...legitimate marriage of Séraphin Bourgeois farmer of the parish [something] and of Lea Crepeau, godfather Théophile Crépeau farmer of the parish of St Theodore [something], godmother Diana Crépeau his wife who along with the father have declared they cannot sign.
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: chinakay on Sunday 15 September 13 03:51 BST (UK)
Urgel:

The 17 July 1877 we etc...Urgile Bourgeois born today of the legitimate marriage of Seraphin Bourgeois and Delia Crépeau farmers of the parish of St Alphonse. Godfather Urgele Bourgeois and godmother Angeline Pellerin have declared they cannot sign.

The 9th September 1877 we etc have interred in the cemetery of this parish the body of Urgel, deceased yesterday [something] 53 days, legitimate son of Seraphin Bourgeois farmer and Lea Crepeau. Present Urgel Bourgeois [the godfather, married 1874] and [somebody else] who declared they could not sign.
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: chinakay on Sunday 15 September 13 05:17 BST (UK)
Their marriage, 12 Feb 1861, has Seraphin the son of Alexis Bourgeois and Marie Anne Carrière. Lia is the minor daughter of Joseph Crépeau and Denise Therrien of the parish of l'Epiphanie.

So, minor at the time would have been under 21. But darned if I can find a birth for Lia, Delia or any Crépeaus in l'Assomption. There's an M[arie] Lea Crepeau born in Napierville in 1845, and her father is Joseph Raymond Crepeau...but her mother is Marie Lea Beaupré :P

Cheers for now,
China
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: polarbear on Saturday 21 September 13 00:02 BST (UK)
Burial for Lea, from the Drouin Collection.

Buried 18 Jan 1878
Lea Crepeau, legal wife of Seraphin Bourgeois
Died 'avant hier' ... ? before yesterday, aged 34 years
St Alphonse-Rodriguez
County Joliette

I have also found a burial for Denise Therrien. Would you like this info as well?

PB
Title: Re: Canadian Look up - Joseph Seraphin Bourgeois
Post by: chinakay on Saturday 21 September 13 05:55 BST (UK)

Died 'avant hier' ... ? before yesterday

Yes, the day before yesterday.