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Offline christiek

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The Poots Family - getting a bit confused and need help
« on: Wednesday 24 October 12 18:40 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I'm hoping someone can help because I'm struggling a little.

I'm looking for a William John Poots. His wife was called Eliza Ann (Elizabeth on a couple of documents) and his children were: Eliza Ann (Lizzie), Robert, William John, David, Olive, Margery (who died in 1906) and Andrew. He died sometime before 1909 because his wife remarried a Wright and is listed with some of the children under the name Elizabeth Wright in the 1911 census. I've found them on the 1901 census living at St Mary's Row in Banbridge. According to that census he was an agricultural labourer and he couldn't read or write.

Here is where I come a little unstuck. I can only find indexes online for marriage and birth records. There's a marriage listed for 1893 (a year before the first child was born) in Banbridge for a William Poots, can't work out how to find the spouse.
Would like to find his birth record as well, the only one I could find puts his birth as 15th December 1844, which would make him 62 when the last child was born!

Obviously, without finding his birth record, I'm struggling to find who his parents were!

I also have absolutely no clue what Eliza Ann's maiden name was either, so if anyone comes across that information, that would be much appreciated. Thank you!
Knox's of Bamburgh/Wooler/Scotland?,
Smith's of Beadnell/Berwick-upon-Tweed/Ord
Hastie's of Berwick-upon-Tweed
Vosts of Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Poots of Northern Ireland
Hydes of Northern Ireland

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Re: The Poots Family - getting a bit confused and need help
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 18:55 BST (UK) »
Hi,
   10 Oct 1893 William Poots married Eliza Anne McKeown in Seapatrick Church of Ireland, Banbridge. The fathers' names were William Poots and Andrew McKeown.

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Stewart, Irwin, Morrison, Haslett, Murrell - Dungiven area Co. Londonderry
Browne, Barrett -Co.Armagh
Neil, Smyth _Co. Antrim

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Re: The Poots Family - getting a bit confused and need help
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 18:58 BST (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: The Poots Family - getting a bit confused and need help
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 18:59 BST (UK) »
Thank you ever so much kingskerswell. Would you mind me asking you where you found the information, just so I know where to look for it/what records to order when I get over to N Ireland in a couple of weeks?
Knox's of Bamburgh/Wooler/Scotland?,
Smith's of Beadnell/Berwick-upon-Tweed/Ord
Hastie's of Berwick-upon-Tweed
Vosts of Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Poots of Northern Ireland
Hydes of Northern Ireland


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Re: The Poots Family - getting a bit confused and need help
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 19:09 BST (UK) »
Given the age differences between the couple, it might have been a second marriage for William. The marriage cert will tell you. (I see a possible previous marriage in 1864 in Banbridge to Mary Lanigan Vol 1. Page 268.) I also see what may be his death in Banbridge in Jan – Mar 1908, thought the age isn’t quite right (b c 1853). You might need to get the cert to check.

His age means that he was born before the start of statutory registration so you won’t get a birth cert for him. You will probably have to rely on church records. He was Church of Ireland and so I’d start with the local COI records (Seapatrick parish) which have been copied and are in PRONI, but are probably not on-line anywhere.
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Stewart, Irwin, Morrison, Haslett, Murrell - Dungiven area Co. Londonderry
Browne, Barrett -Co.Armagh
Neil, Smyth _Co. Antrim

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Re: The Poots Family - getting a bit confused and need help
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 21:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks ever so much. You've just opened up a new line of enquiry. I think I can trace my family back a little further now. I'm flying over to Ireland in a couple of weeks so now I have a little bit more of an idea what I'm looking for as well in regards to PRONI.

Do I mark this as completed now? Or do I leave it open, bearing in mind that I may have a couple of questions in the future? (If nobody minds that is?)
Knox's of Bamburgh/Wooler/Scotland?,
Smith's of Beadnell/Berwick-upon-Tweed/Ord
Hastie's of Berwick-upon-Tweed
Vosts of Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Poots of Northern Ireland
Hydes of Northern Ireland

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Re: The Poots Family - getting a bit confused and need help
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 23:34 BST (UK) »
The topic's fine as it is, feel free to add more queries here. Meanwhile, there are lots of Poots from Co. Down here which might be of interest-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/P/PlPo.htm
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Re: The Poots Family - getting a bit confused and need help
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 October 12 06:07 BST (UK) »




According to the Commonwealth War Graves Commission (CWGC) website, son William John who appears in both the 1901 and 1911 census records fought and died in WW1:

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1586908/POOTS,%20WILLIAM%20JOHN

Brother Robert also died in WW1 a couple of years earlier, details also on the CWGC website:

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/65948/POOTS,%20R

Their names also appear on the Banbridge War Memorial opposite the Downshire Arms in Newry Street, Banbridge.