Andrew wylie

[bluenoser]

I wonder if GRIZEL 1797
GRIZEL 1800 could be the Grace?

[Joyful]

www.whatsinaname.net records Grace as a

derivative of Grizel.

HTH

Joy

[bluenoser]

Was hoping so thank you.

[bluenoser]

I wonder does any one else get as confused as I do... I'm legally blind and miss a lot of info along the way.  My questions are. If this list is Alexander's siblings and it looks good but can't get Scotland's people to reach my email I think my inbox is full my kids will have to rescue me Any way I'm sorry to post long entry but wanted you to see I have been searching for awhile now and can't go back further then Alexander Wylie.Any direction thanked. If any one needs help and I can help UI can at least try for you
  ALEXANDER WYLIE  Name: Alexander Wylie
Sex: M
Birth: 1776 in Renfrewshire
Death: ABT 1850
Occupation: 1841 Coal Miner
Residence: 1841 Shilford   christened on 6-7-1791  (

How can he be born 1776  be christened in 1791 and marry in 17 Jan 1795
 Dunlop, Ayreshire, Scotland
siblings were: JEAN, DAVID, JANET, MARY, ELIZABETH, JOHN, AGNES, and ANNE.

Then he married Janet Clark

1841 Census- Robert Wylie is staying with him- he is aged 15, unlikely to be a son, no relationship noted in census. Alex is 65 and Janet is 60

Neither appears in the 1851 census so they may well have been dead
Alexander WYLLIE Married Janet CLARK, 17 Jan 1795, Neilson, Renfrew  Janet born (1776-1781), someone thought in Outwith? But how could Alexander and Janet be born and married same years...I somehow think maybe they a generation back? Can any one see what I mean.

Alexander WYLLIE Married Janet CLARK, 17 Jan 1795, Neilson, Renfrew

ALEXANDER Wyllie, Christening:  29 November 1795, Neilson, Renfrew
GRIZEL 1797
GRIZEL 1800
JEAN  Jun/06/1802
ANDREW 30/ SEP/1804
HUGH 16/ NOV /1806
ELIZABETH 3 /SEP /1809
JOHN 21 /JUN /1812
JOHN  13 /FEB /1814
DAVID 1816
Robert 25/Feb/1823

Then son Hugh married Margaret Brown in Dunlop. Margaret Brown ABT 1840, daughter of William Brown and Annie Bryce. She was born 15 AUG 1816 in Dunlop, Ayrshire, and died 5 MAY 1895 in Dunlop Village.Name: Hugh Wylie
Sex: M
Birth: 16 NOV 1806 in Neilston
Death: 14 OCT 1888 in Dunlop Village of Heart Disease for several years
Occupation: 1887 Mason
Occupation: 1841 Journeyman Mason
Occupation: 1860 Mason
Residence: 1841 Dunlop Village
Residence: 1861 14 Main Street, Dunlop
Residence: 1871 Dunlop Village
Note:

    1841 Census Details

    Staying with his wife Margaret Brown in Dunlop. She was aged 20. Says he is 30 but that age has been rounded down as was the custom. Doesn't appear to be anyone else staying with them

    Matthew Mair, son in law singed death cert

    1861 Census
    Staying in Dunlop with wife Margaret and daughters Jane and Mary

    1871 Census
    Staying in Dunlop Main Street with Margaret and 9 yr old daughter along with two lodgers

    In the OPR High's dob is given as 1806 so the age given on the death cert is wrong. Hugh was 82 when he died.
Hugh's daughter Name: Jane Wylie
Sex: F
Birth: 1853 in Dunlop, Ayrshire
Death: 11 JUL 1887 in Barrhead of Entritis (inflammation of the bowels)
Residence: 1861 14 Main Street, Dunlop
Note: 1861- staying with parents in Dunlop at 14 Main Street



Marriage 1 James Cunningham b: 4 SEP 1855 in Stewarton, Ayrshire

    Married: 8 JUN 1877 in Dunlop

Children
 David Cunningham b: 1878 in Dunlop, Ayrshire
  Maggie (Meg) Cunningham b: 1881 in Dunlop, Ayrshire
   Hugh Cunningham b: 1883 in Dunlop, Ayrshir
 Janet Cunningham b: 31 MAY 1887 in Main Street, Barrhead or Dunlop
Andrew married Agnes Pollock her dad James her mom Agnes Gilmour can't find that record either... ok their kids were,,,   Andrews marriage...And Agnes listed in Stewarton Church of Scotland  21/Feb/1826

Alexander Wylie, born 8/Oct/1826. Stewarton, Ayrshire,
Agnes Wylie, born 30/June/1829. Neilston, Renfrewshire,
Janet Wyllie, born 26/June/1831. Kilmarnock, Ayrshire,
Mary Wyllie, born 27/Oct/1837. Kilmarnock, Ayrshire.

[bluenoser]

I would say to you are on the right track.

From Familysearch we have to ALEXANDER and JANET nee Clark Born/Christened Neilston, Renfrew:
ALEXANDER 1795
GRIZEL 1797
GRIZEL 1800
JEAN 1802
ANDREW 1804
HUGH 1806
ELIZABETH 1809
JOHN 1812
JOHN 1814
DAVID 1816
(F/S)

Possible the same Children + others;
Marriages Church of Scotland Parish Church, Dunlop, Ayrshire
GRIZEL Wylie/ Robert KERR, 05 Feb 1822
ALEXR Wylie/Margt ROSS, 23 April 1822
ADAM Wylie/Jean GILMOUR, 29 March 1825
HUGH Wyllie/Margaret BROWN, 30 April 1827 ***
DAVID Wyllie/Jean FAULDS, 05 April 1831
MARTHA Wyllie/Andw PEACOCK, 29 March 1831

Source of Marriages FreeREG www.freereg.org.uk
In total 26 Marriages 1820's to 1850's on there are 62 Baptisms.
(Use soundex as some Wyllie, others Wylie)

*** HUGH/MARGARET Baptise a Child Janet Clark Wyllie in 1843 and a Alexander in 1838
Alexr/Margt name Children Grizzel in 1826/Janet 1825/Alexr 1830

Trish

   


 I have been trying to track these Wylies. This Hugh has to be Andrews brother who married Margaret Brown in Dunlop.....

It would fit name wise as their child Janet Clark was his mom's names. Now we figured Grizzel is Grace.   

 Adam Wylie

Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910
   
marriage:    29 March 1825    Dunlop,Ayr,Scotland
   
spouse:    Jean Gilmour

Adam ? married Jean Gilmour... His name doesn't follow any Adam at all but Agnes Gilmour was Agnes Pollock Wylie's mothers maiden name...

Alexander Wylie
Gender:    Male
Christening Date:    
Christening Place:    , DUNLOP, AYR, SCOTLAND
Birth Date:    07 Jul 1826
Birthplace:    , Dunlop, Ayr, Scotland
Death Date:    
Name Note:    
Race:    
Father's Name:    Adam Wylie
Father's Birthplace:    
Father's Age:    
Mother's Name:    Jean Gilmour

[bluenoser]

If it's any help, I have a coal mining ancestor from Ayrshire who migrated to Pictou, Nova Scotia in about 1832, but returned to Ayrshire a few years later. From the reading about it I've done, the late 1820s to early 1830s would be the most likely timing for your ancestor's migration, as there seems to have been a recruitment drive around then for coal miners.

Your Andrew Wylie does seem to be the one born 30 August 1804 at Neilston, Refrewshire to Alexander Wylie and Janet Clark. As Andrew named his eldest son Alexander then it is highly likely, as that would be the case if they'd followed the Scottish naming pattern.

There was coal mining at Neilston. Coal miners often moved around from mine to mine, so a move to Ayrshire some time after the birth of Andrew would fit with being a coal mining family.

From the records on FamilySearch it would seem Alexander Wylie and Janet Clark had a large family. Could be worthwhile tracking their children to see if any others migrated to Nova Scotia.

                           


Hi I guess they must of been after the wave of immigration to Albion Mines,Nova Scotia because this child Mary Wyllie, born 27/Oct/1837. Kilmarnock, Ayrshire. So it would be after that date. I have went through so many ships list it hard on sight I seen a few that stated miners to Albion Mines earlier date and it said departed from Ireland or Eng I'm not seeing any Scottish miners mentioned.thanks for the info it did help..

[bluenoser]

Hi thank you JC. I am very interested in your miner Andrew Wylie who went to Canada and then back to Scotland. I know Andrew born 1801 have seen his birth year 1801/1803. I seen his head stone in Stellarton. The fellow you mention could be family do you see more info on your fellow? I looked at Ships and can guess it was before 1843-44 unless the news article on Arthur Morton Wylie a grand son who did so many jobs a Pharmacist in Amherst can't find that or the fact he moved to Illinois to run his Uncle a McKenzie's lumber mill. He married but had no kids.It was that article that told his grand fathers family came to Nova Scotia...from Scotland and the number of kids no names.His father Alexander was a miner in Shifford.This is Alexander Andrew 1801 father..

Looking for the John and Margaret his parents.

.Name: Alexander Wylie
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1791
Baptism Date: 7 Jun 1791
Baptism Place: , Dunlop, Ayr, Scotland
Father: John Wylie
Mother: Margaret Wylie
FHL Film Number: 1041341
Reference ID: 2:16CVZJG                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Indiana, Select Marriages, 1780-1992
Name: Arthur Morton Wylie
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Age: 33
Birth Date: 13 Nov 1874
Birth Place: Stellarton, Nova Scotia
Marriage Date: 16 Sep 1908
Marriage Place: Anderson, Madison, Indiana
FHL Film Number: 2108432
Reference ID: bk 2 p 207
Household Members:
Name
Margaret Mclean
William Wylie
Arthur Morton Wylie
Laura Belle Brown
Elmetta Dowds
Harry M. Brown

[bluenoser]

There's a marriage for an Andrew Pollock Wylie born 1871 in Stellarton: -

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F2G5-37Q

This Andrew Pollock was the grandson of Andrew I'm searching. William was one of Andrew and Agnes sons born in Nova Scotia. He married Margaret McKenzie and named a son Andrew Pollock Wylie. Andrew married Louise Procter thanks for your help.

[bluenoser]

Hi,
F/S or F/S.Org is my abbreviation of Familysearch.Org

And yes it looks like Robert 1823 was another Son of Alexander/Janet an she is just down as Jean on his Chrsitening.
He also appears on the 1841 Census with them.

Alexander WYLLIE Married Janet CLARK, 17 Jan 1795, Neilson, Renfrew
(F/S.Org)

You wondered if Alexander/Janet may have emigrated as well. They are still in Dunlop on 1841.
Given their ages I would think maybe not.

Have now found a Christening that I lost before;
Alexander WYLLIE
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950   
christening:   29 November 1795   NEILSTON, RENFREW, SCOTLAND
parents:Alexander Wyllie, Janet Clark

Trish

EDIT;
This looks like Janet;
1851 Census
Free Church Manse,
Dunlop, Ayrshire
Janet WYLLIE, 75 (1776), born Neilson, Renfrewshire

You can few this image for more detail on Scotlandspeople.
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Also other records you can search for a very small fee.
There are 3 Alexander Wyliie Deaths on there 1841-1851

thanks for clearing this up about Alexander and Janet dying there.