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1881-1901 lookup please James Ramsey, Dundee
« on: Monday 03 March 14 17:05 GMT (UK) »
An elderly friend is looking for information on her grandfather James Ramsey, born 1876 in Dundee. The only other information she has is that he died in 1944 again in Dundee.

Thanks in advance
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Re: 1881-1901 lookup please James Ramsey, Dundee
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 March 14 17:49 GMT (UK) »
You are going to have to download a copy of his 1944 death cert to get his parents names and mothers maiden name as there are several of his name b Dundee on the 1881 census
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Re: 1881-1901 lookup please James Ramsey, Dundee
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 March 14 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi  will pass that on. Thanks for looking

Chris
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Re: 1881-1901 lookup please James Ramsey, Dundee
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 March 14 18:56 GMT (UK) »
Does she perhaps know the names of any of his siblings as that may help narrow it down
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Re: 1881-1901 lookup please James Ramsey, Dundee
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 March 14 07:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi all ,

Would the spelling of the surname be Ramsay rather than Ramsey.

Can't see a likely death in Angus for a James Ramsey , nor a likely birth for a James Ramsey in Angus.

It might be easier to identify James through his marriage if details of his spouse are known  :-\



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Re: 1881-1901 lookup please James Ramsey, Dundee
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 March 14 14:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carole and Ev,

Having checked I now find the details i posted are wrong. His name was James Patullo RAMSAY and he was born in 1868.


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Re: 1881-1901 lookup please James Ramsey, Dundee
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 March 14 15:05 GMT (UK) »
1871 has a mis -transcribed James Patredla Ramsay b Forfar 1870 (he was 7mths old)

William Ramsay   23 grocers assistant b Pealing Forfar
Susan   23 b Forfar
Jane Ann  1 b Forfar
James Patredla 7months b Forfar
Forfar ED 7 Page 14 Line 13

The safest way is either via his marriage or death cert to ensure we research the right person
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Re: 1881-1901 lookup please James Ramsey, Dundee
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 March 14 15:10 GMT (UK) »
I have just checked SP and he was born in 1871 not 1868   

If you check Family Search - you also get this entry

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY1N-JVK

The 1881 census shows just one additional child - William aged 8 b Forfar

William snr's birthplace shown as Tealing and he was an unemployed grocers assistant
Dundee ED 32 Page 58 Line 17
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Re: 1881-1901 lookup please James Ramsey, Dundee
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 05 March 14 15:27 GMT (UK) »
In 1891 James is still with parents

118 Ann St Dundee - all b Forfar

William Ramsay   45 b Tealing - power loom factory labourer
Susan 43
Jane Ann 21
James P 20 factory stocker
William S 18
Jessie P 6
David P 5
Dundee ED 35 Page 42 Line 6

In 1901 William & Susan just have David & Jessie at home - address 12 Malcolm St
Dundee ED 41 Page 33 Line 11

1901 for James   18 Wolsley Street

James P Ramsey   30 b Forfar
Janet 31 b Cargill Perthshire
Peter Shaw Smith 25 lodger - police constable b Kettins Forfar
Dundee ED 43 Page 10 Line 22
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