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Title: COMPLETE: Lookup request - Marriage Isaac RABY
Post by: Chezney on Monday 07 March 11 12:45 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I have found the marriage of an 'Isaac Raby' Mar 1870 Bury St. Edmunds, Vol 4a, Page 623.
I need to know if this is the correct individual, I know the one I'm looking for married a 'Frances', but I don't know her maidenname. Any chance someone could tell me her maiden name?
I need to know this info because I am looking for the birth of their son 'Thomas' but there are two born 1875 and another born 1876 both in Bury St. Edmunds.

It's strange because later the family were known to have the surname 'Simmonds' not 'Raby', so I'm a little stumped, but looking for the mentioned marriage above and Thomas's birth.

Thank you if anyone can help!

Chezney.
Title: Re: Lookup request - Marriage Isaac Raby
Post by: Sharon01 on Monday 07 March 11 12:53 GMT (UK)
Hi,

On the same page is a Frances Simmonds, so I would probably say that it is the marriage.

Sharon
Title: Re: Lookup request - Marriage Isaac Raby
Post by: Sharon01 on Monday 07 March 11 12:59 GMT (UK)
The 1881 census has Thomas as Thomas William Raby with parents Isaac & Frances (RG11/3971/118/5).

This is probably him.

Births Jun 1876†
Raby† Thomas William† † Bury St. E† (vol 4a 573).

Sharon†
Title: Re: Lookup request - Marriage Isaac Raby
Post by: Chezney on Monday 07 March 11 13:11 GMT (UK)
That's great thank you!

I'm stumped as to why Frances and the children changed their name from Raby to Simmonds (her maiden name).

On Thomas's marriage certificate he has his Father down as 'William Simmonds' and describes him as a 'Pork Butcher' - not a very Jewish profession! It is also mentioned that he is deceased (this was in 1902).

I'm wondering whether women would perhaps change their name back to their maiden name once widowed?
Title: Re: Lookup request - Marriage Isaac Raby
Post by: Chezney on Monday 07 March 11 13:17 GMT (UK)
Iím thinking now that ĎFrances Simmondsí isnít the Mother of Thomas William Raby as when I search for his birth and type ĎSimmondsí under Motherís maiden name, nothing comes up. But when I search without her name his birth appears.

Any idea what the Motherís maiden name for his birth is?
Born: Jun 1876, Bury St. Edmunds, Vol 4a, Page 573
Title: Re: Lookup request - Marriage Isaac Raby
Post by: Sharon01 on Monday 07 March 11 13:21 GMT (UK)
The mother's maiden name did not appear on birth certs until 1911.

Sharon
Title: Re: Lookup request - Marriage Isaac Raby
Post by: suffolkmawther on Monday 07 March 11 13:29 GMT (UK)
I live in south Suffolk and know a family by the name of Raby  ;D

So it is still around.

Pat ...


Title: Re: Lookup request - Marriage Isaac Raby
Post by: Chezney on Monday 07 March 11 13:31 GMT (UK)
Thanks Sharon01 - that explains a lot! She's obviously their Mother. I've ordered certificates now with your help - many thanks!

Suffolkmawther - That's interesting, very likely that we're related! It's such a Jewish name, I'm looking forward to tracing it back and seeing where it takes me!

Many thanks all! x
Title: Re: COMPLETE: Lookup request - Marriage Isaac Raby
Post by: suffolkmawther on Monday 07 March 11 13:41 GMT (UK)
Certainly in the occurrences in East Anglia, we have found the name to be of Viking/Danish origins  :-\

Pat ...