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Was Thomas Napier born in Stirling?
« on: Friday 11 April 14 15:15 BST (UK) »
I have not much information about Thomas NAPIER

He was born in Stirling about 1863 and his father was William NAPIER who died before he married.

23 April 1893 he married Mary Ann WARD at All Hallows, Poplar, Middlesex.
His occupation in 1893 was Mariner
Thomas NAPIER died 4q 1911 Romford Essex.

Any further details about Thomas would be welcome. :)

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Re: Was Thomas Napier born in Stirling?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 April 14 15:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Muffin41

There is this birth as a possibility a couple of years earlier in Stirlingshire https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F7SY-MRK

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Re: Was Thomas Napier born in Stirling?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 April 14 15:47 BST (UK) »
Just found the family in 1861. It is a transcript so cannot tell what the marital status is for Mary wife. Everyone showing as born in Denny:

Mary Napier 34
Wilh Napier 14 boatman
Isabella Napier 12
Mary Napier 10
John Napier 8
James Napier 5
Thomas Napier 3
Jane Napier 7 Months

Address: Hollandbush, Denny Stirlingshire

Occupation for son William I think would fit well with possible William Snr who showed as Lighterman on son's 1893 marriage?

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Re: Was Thomas Napier born in Stirling?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 April 14 15:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you Monica, as you say the birth is a possible.

I am not sure if William Napier came down to London to work. - Yes he was a Lighterman. :D

Are merchant seamen registered when signing on ships?
Just a thought to find Thomas Napier in the 1890īs.

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Re: Was Thomas Napier born in Stirling?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 April 14 16:00 BST (UK) »
I have never had to research merchant navy men, but I think records are available on Findmypast but not sure what these contain unfortunately. See also www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/merchantseaman1858-1917.htm

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Re: Was Thomas Napier born in Stirling?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 April 14 16:05 BST (UK) »
I will have a look at the link :)

I made a mistake at first; William Napier was a lighterman in Poplar 1893.
I never had any other details about him.

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Re: Was Thomas Napier born in Stirling?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 April 14 16:06 BST (UK) »
Just found the family on FreeCen in Denny. William Snr also showed as boatman which is good news.

William Napier boatman 35 b. Cumbernauld Dunbartonshire 
Mary Napier 26
William Napier 3
Isabella Napier 2
janet Napier 4 days

Address: Hollinbush

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Re: Was Thomas Napier born in Stirling?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 April 14 16:11 BST (UK) »
Which year was that Monica?
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Re: Was Thomas Napier born in Stirling?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 April 14 16:14 BST (UK) »
Sorry, that was from 1851. Struggling to find them so far after that 1861 census entry we have already. Can only see I think Isabella Napier who married a John Nelson on the 1871 census. Either a parent/both died or they moved away from Scotland?

This is Isabella's entry from 1871, a bit messy on transcription:

John Nelson 13 maltman b. Balfron, Stirling
Isabella Napier 21 b. Hollandbrush
Mary Welson 3
Jean Welson 1
Isabella Welson 2 Months

Address: Bog, Denny

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