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Help with Military Family - Yorkshire, Lancashire and Guernsey
« on: Friday 09 May 14 04:22 BST (UK) »
Hey Guys,

I have a William Robert Trainer who was born in about 1853 in apparently Scarborough, Yorkshire.

He married an Annie Gilcriss (born Abt 1857 in Yorkshire apparently) on the 13th of May 1878 in Fulwood, Lancashire.

I have that he was in the 15th Regiment of Foot by 1879 as he has his first born in Mullinger, County Meath and his second in 1880 in Tipperary.  After this time I find them in the 1881 and 1891 census living at Saint Peter Port in Guernsey, Channel Island.

Sometime in 1891 they were back in England in Leeds, Yorkshire.

Then by 1916 he is in Western Australia, Australia with two of his sons. I can find the sons immigrations records (they went separately) but not William's himself.

If anyone could help me trace Annie or William back that would be great...I can't seem to find births or baptisms for them.

And I can't find William's military record for some reason.

Any help greatly appreciated!
Cole/Hayden - Chilbolton, Hampshire, England
Higgins - Pembrokeshire, Wales
Popham - Bideford, Devonshire, England
Burness - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Troy - Ireland
Christie - Scotland
Campbell - Scotland
Ross - Scotland
Brand - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Watson - Scotland
Rundmann - Taschendorf, Prussia, Germany
Schonfeldt - Prussia
Gurowski - Prussia
Martin - Cork, Ireland
Roberts - Yorkshire, England
Kemp - England

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Re: Help with Military Family - Yorkshire, Lancashire and Guernsey
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 May 14 07:17 BST (UK) »
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk

Marriage: 13 May 1878 Christ Church, Fulwood, Lancashire, England
William Robert Trainer - 23, Corporal 18th Regiment, Bachelor, Fulwood. Father: James Trainer, labourer.
Annie Gilcriss - 20, Spinster, Fulwood. Father: Edward Gilcriss, farmer.
Witnesses: J. Hickey; J. J. Shaw.
Married by Banns by: John Palmour.
   

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Re: Help with Military Family - Yorkshire, Lancashire and Guernsey
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 May 14 07:26 BST (UK) »
1891 census says he was in the Guernsey Militia.

I think it says Sergeant Instructor of Military?
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Re: Help with Military Family - Yorkshire, Lancashire and Guernsey
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 May 14 08:07 BST (UK) »
1901 Census has all the children living at Wharfedale Place, Leeds with the oldest child Robert age 20, born Ireland living on own account as Head of the house, no parents here. :-\


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Re: Help with Military Family - Yorkshire, Lancashire and Guernsey
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 July 14 04:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your help. Sorry I have taken so long to reply, haven't been very well unfortunately. But back at it!

I just need to find William and Annie pre their marriage now!
Cole/Hayden - Chilbolton, Hampshire, England
Higgins - Pembrokeshire, Wales
Popham - Bideford, Devonshire, England
Burness - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Troy - Ireland
Christie - Scotland
Campbell - Scotland
Ross - Scotland
Brand - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Watson - Scotland
Rundmann - Taschendorf, Prussia, Germany
Schonfeldt - Prussia
Gurowski - Prussia
Martin - Cork, Ireland
Roberts - Yorkshire, England
Kemp - England

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Re: Help with Military Family - Yorkshire, Lancashire and Guernsey
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 July 14 05:53 BST (UK) »
hi,,,don't know if this her,,,but keep for future reference.


ANNIE GILCHRIST birth registered Dec qtr 1857 Sculcoates RD ref 9d 143

MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Help with Military Family - Yorkshire, Lancashire and Guernsey
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 July 14 05:56 BST (UK) »
Thank you 'gortonboy'. I have seen that record - I'm not sure if it is her, but will apply for the record if I have to and confirm.
Cole/Hayden - Chilbolton, Hampshire, England
Higgins - Pembrokeshire, Wales
Popham - Bideford, Devonshire, England
Burness - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Troy - Ireland
Christie - Scotland
Campbell - Scotland
Ross - Scotland
Brand - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Watson - Scotland
Rundmann - Taschendorf, Prussia, Germany
Schonfeldt - Prussia
Gurowski - Prussia
Martin - Cork, Ireland
Roberts - Yorkshire, England
Kemp - England

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Re: Help with Military Family - Yorkshire, Lancashire and Guernsey
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 July 14 06:01 BST (UK) »
im surprised,given that he is a sergeant instructor,and that he appears to have served a few years ,that he hasn't got a pension record,,,if he has,,i cant see it on the service records on Findmypast.
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Help with Military Family - Yorkshire, Lancashire and Guernsey
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 July 14 06:12 BST (UK) »
Is it possible that there is no pension record because he moved to Australia between 1913 and 1916 or would that not have mattered?
Cole/Hayden - Chilbolton, Hampshire, England
Higgins - Pembrokeshire, Wales
Popham - Bideford, Devonshire, England
Burness - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Troy - Ireland
Christie - Scotland
Campbell - Scotland
Ross - Scotland
Brand - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Watson - Scotland
Rundmann - Taschendorf, Prussia, Germany
Schonfeldt - Prussia
Gurowski - Prussia
Martin - Cork, Ireland
Roberts - Yorkshire, England
Kemp - England