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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cambridgeshire => England => Cambridgeshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: bookendart on Thursday 13 May 10 01:36 BST (UK)
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Hi Everybody :-)
I'm looking for the birth and death of John Moyses, who married Mary Bonfield in Whittlesey in 1804. He was 15 when he got married, putting his birth year at around 1789, and I believe he died sometime after 1830.
Does anyone with access to the Whittlesey parish registers see him in there??
thanks so much for the help :)
-Claire
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There's a burial index 1801-37 on the Cambs FHS site at http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html but I can't see him. If he died after 1837 his death should be registered but I can't see an obvious candidate.
However looking at the baptism index on the same site it appears as though they only baptised two children at Whittlesey, the second one being in 1810.
What else do you know about them? Without a baptism or burial I'm intrigued as to how you know John was only fifteen when he married, as no age was given on the marriage entry. What's the source for this?
An Ann Moyses age 44 of Peterborough Town End (Northants) was buried in Whittlesey in 1830. Might she be the wife of John?
Who appears to be their son Thomas was living at Thorney in 1851. Both Whittlesey and Thorney are only a couple of miles east of Peterborough.
David
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Well i've spent a frustrating hour looking through my files trying to find my source on John and Mary's marriage and the only one I have is Boyd's Marriage Index which doesnt' have that level of detail >:( I have over 600 sources in my database and can't believe I didn't record this one, but nothing turned up in a google search either, so I'm going to have to chock it up to a data entry mistake on my part.
I have the marriage date as 15 Oct 1804 and the witnesses were Thomas and Ann Bonfield, which leads me to believe someone emailed me the info but I can't for the life of me remember who or when :-\
The name Moyses turns up in the Cambridgeshire baptism index as Moises and occasionally Moyser, and I was able to find that John and Mary had four children together, the last being Alice in 1812, who died a few years later in 1826. After Mary died in 1820, John married Ann Springfield in 1821 (per Boyd's index) so yes, that Ann Moyses burial you found in 1830 was John's wife. John and Ann had three children together.
There is a burial record for a John Moyses in Thorney Abbey in 1829 which is only four miles from Whittlesey so it could be him.
Thanks for your time. I appreciate it :-) if I come across my source for the mysterious info on John and Mary's marriage I'll post it here.
Cheers
-Claire
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Hello Claire
I have the marriage date as 15 Oct 1804 and the witnesses were Thomas and Ann Bonfield, which leads me to believe someone emailed me the info but I can't for the life of me remember who or when
It seems to have come from one of your other Rootschat threads:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,432335.0.html
Message #8 from Selina who could perhaps advise the source.
Ivan
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Thanks Ivan. that's the reference i was looking for :-) but still, doesn't mention anything about John being 15. Maybe I just dreamed that :-\
thanks for the help
-Claire
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Hi,
My reply came from transcription of Parish Register. No ages were mentioned.
There was a bapt at Whittlesey St. Mary 11 June 1783 of a John Moises of Wm and Tabitha.
Selina
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Thanks Selina :-) Yeah, I have no clue where i came up with the age of 15...it makes a lot more sense that John was born in 1784, as that would put him at the same age as his first wife Mary. I'll start researching this further to try to determine if he's my John.
Do you see any other children of William and Tabitha born or buried around that time?
I really appreciate your help, as always :-) :-)
-claire
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There is also a burial, same parish, 4 January 1851 of a John Moyses aged 68 of Scaldegate (P. Clerk). So that gives a birth date of 1783 which may match up.
Will have a look for more but may be tomorrow.
Selina
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I have only found bapts to Wm and Tabitha, same parish, of:
Susan 18 Jan 1784 paid 3d tax
Wm 30 December 1786
Eliz 5 June 1789
Selina
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thanks Selina :-)
I do think that might be my John whose burial you found in 1851. It looks like he left a widow, a third wife Elizabeth? Who shows up on the 1861 and 1871 Scaldgate census reports. He would have married her after Ann died in 1830. Do you happen to see a marriage for him and Elizabeth in Whittlesey?
thanks so much :-)
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Well if this is him he didn't hang about:
3 May 1831 John Moyses widr otp married Elizabeth Sanders sp otp Witnesses: Jno Robinson and Mary Elsum
Whittlesey St. Mary
Selina
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He didn't wait long to marry his second wife after Mary died, so it's no surprise really ;-) Based on the ages of Elizabeth on the census reports it looks like she was born around 1790. She would have been about 40 when she married John. At least he wasn't robbing the cradle :-)
i really appreciate your time Selina!!!
thanks again :D
-Claire