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Martha Mitten
« on: Friday 27 December 13 21:31 GMT (UK) »
I have just joined this great site and live in New Zealand which restricts my research capabilities to the internet only.

I am due to revise our family tree and on checking the entries which have been passed down in a family bible it is possible the first entry is a mistake.
It states that Benjamin Little married Martha Mitten in 1829 and that Martha's parents were John and Jane Mitten(married 1791).
On checking parish records and the census data Martha was born in Dawley 1809 or 1810 and died in 1887.
My problem is that other members of our tree state that Martha's parents were George and Martha
(marriage date unknown) and they had a daughter Martha born in 1809.
John and Jane had three children- Thomas, George and Hannah, no record of a Martha, their last child being born in 1797 leaving a large gap to 1809.

Which is correct and how could the first entry to a family bible be so far off the mark.

Regards Ron

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Re: Martha Mitten
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 December 13 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat.  :)

I personally wouldn`t alter my tree to fit "other members of our tree" unless they could provide evidence.   Sometimes online trees just find the nearest "hit".  Records online for Shropshire are sparse as I have found in my research and mostly consist of Church of England records.  Whilst marriages in the time frame had to be performed by the Church of England (apart from Quakers and Jews), baptisms could be conducted in any faith they followed.   Non conformist baptisms online are few and far between so keep searching regularly and always remember that not all registers are online and some haven`t survived.

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Re: Martha Mitten
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 December 13 22:35 GMT (UK) »
From Familyseach.org

Benjamin Little   &   Martha Mitton        Possibly Mytton
Mar. 22 Mar 1829 Wellington

Benjamin Little bap. 29 Mar 1809 Madeley son of Thomas Little and Sara

Hope this helps. I will check this in the new year, as this will give Martha's father. 
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Re: Martha Mitten
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 December 13 22:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

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On checking parish records and the census data Martha was born in Dawley 1809 or 1810 and died in 1887.

The 1851 census shows both Benjamin & Martha were born in Colebrook Dale Shropshire.  Benjamin in 1807 and Martha 1811

In 1861 - Martha's birthplace is Madeley Wood 1811

In 1871 it's 1809 Madeley

In 1881 - it's 1812 Shropshire

No census shows her birthplace as Dawley but I suspect somebody has made assumptions about this entry because it "fits" her birthyear and her mother was Martha

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Re: Martha Mitten
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 December 13 00:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi There,

Thanks Mo, Alberbury and CaroleW for a quick response to my query.

I agree that to disregard our family bible entries for Martha would be unwise.

 I understand that Madeley, Ironbridge and Colebrokedale are all in close proximity to each other resulting in different census entries, also birth dates can vary by one or two years in the census.

The gap between the last known child of John and Jane Mitten and the birth of Martha worries me but the cause of that could be due to no record of more children being available.

Thanks for the offer of further research Alberbury in the new year. If I could find the name of one of her parents it would put the matter to rest.

Happy New Year to you all.

Regards  Ron

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Re: Martha Mitten
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 December 13 08:07 GMT (UK) »
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Carole W - could you educate me please
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System origin - England ODM .....what does ODM mean please ??   ( online data material ? )
does ODM mean it is NOT an extracted record ?...
thanks ...it will be good to know for future reference
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Re: Martha Mitten
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 January 14 20:10 GMT (UK) »
Visited Shropshire Archives today.

No. 155   All Saints, Wellington  22nd March 1829
Benj m Little   of this Parish
and Martha Mitton   of this Parish
were married in this church by Banns with consent of
this twenty second Day of
March in the Year one thousand eight hundred and twenty nine
            By me   Thomas Riddell     Curate
The marriage was solemized between us   Benj Little  X mark
                                                            Martha Mitton  X mark
In the presence of   John Roden  signed
                             Francis Edge   signed

Benjamin bp. 29th Mar 1809 Madeley  son of  Thomas & Sarah Little

Martha bp. 16th April 1809  Holy Trinity, Dawley Magna   dau. of  George & Martha Mitton

26th Dec 1798  St.Chad's, Shrewsbury
George Mitton  of this Parish and
Martha Williams  of the same were
Married in this church by Banns
this Twenty Sixth Day of Decr. in the Year One Thousand Seven hundred
and Ninety Eight  By me  John Warter  assistant minister
The marriage was solemnized between us   George Mytton   signed
                                                              The mark X of Martha Williams
in the Presence of   The mark  X of Richard Langford   
                            The mark  X of Maria Langford


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Re: Martha Mitten
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 January 14 07:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi There Alberbury,

Thanks for your research about Martha and Benjamin. The information is very helpful.

In your opinion then is the information in our family bible, ie Martha 's parents named as John and Jane Mitton right or wrong.

It is quite possible that George and Mar/tha could be her parents?

Kind Regards

Ron

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Re: Martha Mitten
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 January 14 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Ron, I missed something.

John Mitton & Jane Dod
Mar. 17th Nov 1791 Dawley Magna   familysearch.org

Martha bp. 18th Aug 1816 Donnington Wood  F. John Mitton & Mary

But no Martha, daughter of John and Jane Mitton.
If it is not indexed I cannot help find your Martha, daughter of John and Jane Mitton.
If you can look for the 1841 and 1851 Census.
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