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Title: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: Eyesee on Sunday 18 September 11 06:05 BST (UK)
Thomas George MARLOW was born in 1838 in Kennington, Surrey, third son of John and Jane Lovell MARLOW. He married in Dunedin in NZ in 1866 to Ann CANTLE. Have not been able to find when he or Ann arrived.

Thomas was a warehouseman, and he and Ann had a number of children in Dunedin, before moving north to he Auckland area. Thomas died 1930 aged 91 and Ann in 1942 age 104.

I have been through the NZBDMs website, PapersPast and the Burial Index, where I found most of them in the Auckland area. Have also seen the public trees on A******y.

Is anyone researching this family. There may not be many descendants in NZ, if any at all, as most of the children appear either did not marry or married late. One son did marry young and he appears to have gone to South Australia.

Thomas had a brother Valentine James MARLOW, who had a daughter May Emily, born 1876 in London, who married into my CLARKE line in Bombay in 1900. They had one son Beaumaurice Valentine CLARKE, who also ended up in Australia, being in NSW by about the start of WW2.

Thanks
Ian C
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Sunday 18 September 11 06:21 BST (UK)
Hi Ian
did you notice the private trees as well at $A
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: Janette on Sunday 18 September 11 07:18 BST (UK)
Hi Ian,

They are both buried in Waikumete cemetery,it may be worth emailing the FD to see if they can help

MARLOW, ANN
Plot :                                  NONCONFORMIST DIVISION D Row 12, Plot 47
Interment Type:              Burial
Title:                                  Mrs
Surname :                        MARLOW
Given Names:                 ANN
Age :                                  104
Gender :                            Female
Occupation:                     WIDOW
Date Of Death :                07-Jun-1942
Date Of Burial :                08-Jun-1942   
Funeral Director :           W M MORRISON FUNERAL DIRECTORS
Head Stone Details :      N/A



http://www.morrisons.co.nz/Pages/display/8

Cheers Janette


Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: SignalHill on Monday 03 October 11 22:17 BST (UK)
Hi Ian

Maybe a short engagement before marrying someone from Steerage ?

Otago Daily Times , Issue 1285, 9 February 1866, Page 4            

SHIPPING.      PORT CHALMERS.   February. 8

Alhambra, ss, 497; tons, J. M'Lean, from Melbourne via Bluff. cargo and passengers.;
PASSENGER LIST. Per Alhambra, from Melbourne: Mr and Mrs Reid, Mr and Mrs Hawkes and 3 children, Mrs Fitzgerald and child, Miss Cantle, Mrs Pike, Miss Mackwortb, Mrs Wallace and child, Mis Chevallier, Mr and, Mrs M'lntyre, Miss Rook, Messrs Langley, Boyer, Wright, Ross, Westby, Perring, M'Kellar, J. M'Kelhr, Matson, Solomon,; Black, Rev E. Puckle, W. S. Puckle, Pritchard, Yates, Smith, Thompson and 40 in the steerage.

SH
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: SignalHill on Monday 03 October 11 22:19 BST (UK)
MARLOW - CANTLE

Here is the marriage from Presbyterian Archives

MARLOW Thomas George (full age) married CANTLE Ann (no age shown)  12 Feb 1866    Knox Church Dunedin

Here is a School record of a possible son

Marlow Frank Horace - Attended Otago Boys High School in 1881.   Recorded in 75th Jubilee Register of Old Boys (Published 1953) as;  Foreman,  Waihi Rd deceased

SH
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: SignalHill on Monday 03 October 11 22:33 BST (UK)
MARLOW  CANTLE possible Children

Hi Ian
There are two strange things about this list

1867/5626   Marlow    Horace Frank
1868/5180   Marlow    Edward George E probably same as following
1868/10546   Marlow  Edward George Ernest    Ann   Thomas George
1870/6221   Marlow    Ada Constance  added latter   
1871/6301   Marlow    John Henry added latter   
1873/7007   Marlow    Elizabeth Jane.
1873/7008   Marlow    Louisa Bouverie    
         
1873/7009   Marlow    Percy Cantle [/color]
1876/3777   Marlow     Winnefred Blanche      Ann   Thomas George   
1879/18442   Marlow   Theodore Charles         Ann   Thomas George


2 Edward Georges registered the same year .   Explained below see reply #7

3 Children Registered with consecutive numbers in 1873..   Explained below see reply #7

SH



Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: SignalHill on Monday 03 October 11 22:50 BST (UK)
CANTLE of Stepney

Hi Ian

I completely retract or deny the previous comment about this marriage

Otago Daily Times , Issue 1291, 16 February 1866, Page 9   
THE GOLD FIELDS.
On the 13th February, at the residence of Mr S. B. Bi[?e]r, Royal Terrace, by the Rev. D. M. Stuart Mr T. G. Marlow, of Dunedin, to Annie, third daughter of B. W. Cantle, Esq., of Stepney, London. Melbourne and Home papers please copy,

My Father often used the phrase Home papers please copy to underline important oral family news

SH
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: johnbarr on Monday 03 October 11 23:24 BST (UK)
Hi SH,

Re your comment re "strange entries  - 3 Children Registered with consecutive numbers in 1873"

I believe the numbers shown at BDM are the result of copying the alphabetical list for each year from a register compiled at the end of each year. So all Marlow births will be in consecutive number order, based on first letter of first given name, i.e. Elizabeth, Louisa, Percy.

If you check the birth microfiche, you will find the folio numbers are nowhere near consecutive, and the three births were at different times, in different places.

John B
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 04 October 11 00:16 BST (UK)
Mmm ... a very brief courtship  ... or had the couple known each other previously whilst in Melbourne (or some other part of Victoria) ?

Thomas MARLOW might be found on a passenger list into Australia ?

Possibly (if not found on shipping list to NZ), he may have been amongst the hundreds of (unnamed) men who travelled steerage class to the goldfields of Otago ?

~  Lu 
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: SignalHill on Tuesday 04 October 11 01:07 BST (UK)
Birthdate of Edward MARLOW

Otago Daily Times , Issue 2023, 25 June 1868, Page 4

BIRTHS.

On the 24th June, at Carisbrook, Mrs T. G. Marlow, of a son.

SH
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: SignalHill on Tuesday 04 October 11 01:13 BST (UK)
Hi SH,

Re your comment re "strange entries  - 3 Children Registered with consecutive numbers in 1873"

I believe the numbers shown at BDM are the result of copying the alphabetical list for each year from a register compiled at the end of each year. So all Marlow births will be in consecutive number order, based on first letter of first given name, i.e. Elizabeth, Louisa, Percy.

If you check the birth microfiche, you will find the folio numbers are nowhere near consecutive, and the three births were at different times, in different places.

John B

Thanks John
I do not have access to the fiche.

So Elizabeth and Louisa are unlikely

Percy Cantle MARLOW must be right however

SH

Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: SignalHill on Tuesday 04 October 11 01:19 BST (UK)
Thomas G MARLOW Draper

Thomas was in Dunedin the previous year (1865) and probably earlier

Otago Daily Times , Issue 1193, 28 October 1865, Page 4             Article view
THE Otago Daily Times.
Inveniam viam aut' faciam."
DUNEDIN SATURDAY. OCTOBER 28.
The half-yearly meeting of the Drapers Early Closing Association was held last evening, in M'Cubbin's Hotel, Rattray street. Mr Marlow was called to the chair, and there was a large attendance.

Later ODT references show this MARLOW as Thomas G

SH
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: SignalHill on Tuesday 04 October 11 01:26 BST (UK)
Birthdate for Daughter Ada - a new addition to the family

Otago Daily Times , Issue 2567, 29 April 1870, Page 2   
      
On the 28th April, at London street, the wife of T. G. Marlow, of a daughter.

named in NZ BDM

1870/6221   Marlow    Ada Constance

SH
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: SignalHill on Tuesday 04 October 11 01:54 BST (UK)
MARLOW's Drapery Insolvent

Otago Daily Times , Issue 2680, 8 September 1870, Page 2
   
BANKRUPTCY ACT NOTICES.
DEED OF ASSIGNMENT. Thomas George Marlow, draper, Dunedin. Filed, September 6th. W. D. Stewart, solicitor

SH
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: SignalHill on Tuesday 04 October 11 01:57 BST (UK)
Another Son - John Henry MARLOW

Otago Daily Times , Issue 3009, 28 September 1871, Page 4      
BIRTHS
On the 24th Septemher, at her residence, London Street, Mrs T. G Marlow, of a son,

SH
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: SignalHill on Tuesday 04 October 11 02:05 BST (UK)
Birthdate for Percy

Otago Daily Times , Issue 3466, 17 March 1873, Page 2   
   
BIRTH.
On tho 3rd March, at Dowling street Mrs T. G. Marlow, of a son.

Note change of Address


SH
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: SignalHill on Tuesday 04 October 11 02:17 BST (UK)
Birthdate  Winnefred

Otago Daily Times , Issue 4390, 15 March 1876, Page 4   
            
BIRTH.
On the 10th March, at Leith Cottage, Leith street, Mrs T. G Marlow, of a daughter.
 
SH
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: johnbarr on Tuesday 04 October 11 04:00 BST (UK)
Percy Cantle MARLOW must be right however

Marlow, Percy Cantle, folio 812 = Jun Qtr 1873 in Dunedin.
So maybe the March birth was not registered until April ??

John B
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: Eyesee on Tuesday 04 October 11 07:16 BST (UK)
Hi Ian

Maybe a short engagement before marrying someone from Steerage ?

Otago Daily Times , Issue 1285, 9 February 1866, Page 4            

SHIPPING.      PORT CHALMERS.   February. 8

Alhambra, ss, 497; tons, J. M'Lean, from Melbourne via Bluff. cargo and passengers.;
PASSENGER LIST. Per Alhambra, from Melbourne: Mr and Mrs Reid, Mr and Mrs Hawkes and 3 children, Mrs Fitzgerald and child, Miss Cantle, Mrs Pike, Miss Mackwortb, Mrs Wallace and child, Mis Chevallier, Mr and, Mrs M'lntyre, Miss Rook, Messrs Langley, Boyer, Wright, Ross, Westby, Perring, M'Kellar, J. M'Kelhr, Matson, Solomon,; Black, Rev E. Puckle, W. S. Puckle, Pritchard, Yates, Smith, Thompson and 40 in the steerage.

SH

Thanks Signal Hill and John B.

The Victoria Outwards Passenger lists has Miss Cantle as 21 which is close enough to be her.

Victoria Outwards also has a T MARLOW age 28 in 1863 to Otago Port Chalmers, on the Alhambra, but not sure if that is him as there is a Thomas G MARLOW age 25 arriving in Melbourne on the Winefred in Apr 1864.

Ian C
Title: Re: Thomas George MARLOW 1838-1930
Post by: SignalHill on Sunday 09 October 11 07:10 BST (UK)
Mr Marlow a passenger on the Hero ss from Melbourne to Otago arr 16 March 1865 ?

I have transcribed a very dodgy passenger List for the Hero (also Geelong).   PapersPast could not identify the vessel at all in its OCR.

I cannot satisfactorily reconcile this with the PROV record and none of the total passengers add up either

Otago Daily Times , Issue 1016, 22 Mar 1865, Pg 4  SHIPPING. PORT CHALMERS.—March 21.    
ARRIVALS.
Hero. s.s.  [?Jessop?]  from Melbourne, March 16. general cargo, 60 passengers. Bright Bros. and Co. agents

PASSENGER LIST
   Per R.M.S. Hero. from  Melbourne via Bluff Harbor : Mrs Crawford family [of six/] and servant, Mr & Mrs Woods,  Mr & Mrs Henry Leopold and son, Mrs Wheeler Mr T: [ oi ?] Leopold, Mr Geo Leopold, Mr  Weiland, Mr Bullen, Mr Harding Mr [A?] Clark Mr Marlow  Mr Dothie Mr Wilson, Mr Watson, Mr Darling, Mr Blacklock Mr J [M?] Davis, Mr Nixon  Mr Kendrick, Mr M'Donald, Mr Stevenson, mail aged and 30 in steergage.
   Per Geelong  from the North: Mrs Mitchell, Miss Curling, Mrs Newman, Captain Anderson

http://210.8.122.120/indexes/index_search_results.asp?upto=26&cont=yes&month_to=&year_to=
Search <PROV Ship=Hero From=March 1865 To=Mar 1865>

SH