searching for records of Otterson surname in Ballimore

[aghadowey]

Have to confess that I'm totally confused here. You've posted this on Argyllshire, Scotland board and orginally mentioned "Ballimore, Scotland" but now you say Ballimore, Ireland 

Like Gadget I read the census word as Baltimore so I'm wondering if you've considered Baltimore in Co. Cork, Ireland?

[Gadget]

the census rep. would not list a U.S. city in this field, right? It makes no sense.

If his father  were born outside of the US, only the country would be given (see his and his mother's  column). A place name (territory/state) would be be entered if it was in the  US.

See attached instructions.

It might be that the enumerator entered the information incorrectly but  Baltimore has been entered in that column.  Like aghadowey I don't understand why you have posted this in Argyll.

Gadget

[Gadget]

Is he in District 30, San Francisco  in 1910 -

Robert Otterson, widower, Roomer,  50, labourer, Immigration 1882. (age and immigration year fits with 1900)

This has both parents b. Ireland.


Gadget

PS - Did Robert marry an Elizabeth Little in Newcastle upon Tyne, Nov 1881?

[aghadowey]

I (like Gadget) am fairly certain that the 1900 census lists Robert's father as born 'Baltimore' not Ballimore but enumerators do make mistakes as do the people providing the details.

The 1881 census, 1900 census & 1910 census all give his birthplace as Ireland. The 1885 passenger manifest says Robert, along wife wife & 2 children, says all born England but again, errors do happen.

[aghadowey]

Details of this family posted already in an earlier topic-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=696673.msg5400741#msg5400741

Something further to check out -  the parents of your Robert Otterson and the above James were John Otterson born 9 Jun 1815 in Ireland and who Mar 1896 in  Newtownards, Ireland. Mother Charlotte Eglin 1818 - 1900 Newtownards, Ireland. Died aged 82 years. Listed in Ireland Civil registrations death index.

[Gadget]

Just to confirm what has gone before, I've found this:

1881:Joppa, Coylton, Ayrshire

James Otterson, 30, coal miner, b. Ireland
Elspeth, wife, 26, b. Kilmarnock
John, s, 7, b. Dalmemlington
James, s, 5, b.  Coylton
Elizabeth, d, 3, b. do
Charles, s, 1, b. do
Robert, brother, 26, coal miner, b. Ireland

Also, James died in 1903 in Coylton. His parents are given as John Otterson, farmer and Charlotte M.S. Stewart, both deceased.  Son Charles was the informant so probably got Grandmother's surname wrong!


Gadget

[Gadget]

I see from the online trees that the Stewart may have come from John Otterson's mother - listed as Sarah Stewart.  Charles possibly got confused with the generations.


Gadget

[Gadget]

have a record of Robert Otterson's wife traveling to Carrowdore, Ireland to visit her inlaws

  Reply #5

Bit more - not sure it's been mentioned before but as it's free from http://www.irishgenealogy.ie

John might appear in Griffiths:
Carrowdore, Ballyrawer*, Donaghadee, Newton Ards

* Ballyrawer  - maybe Ballirore= Ballimore= Baltimore

Gadget

Added - also a posible mispronunciation/spelling , the Irish for Newtonards is given as Baile Nua na hArda  on Wiki

[JoeNavoa]

Yes, I think that Ballyrawer might be correct, and the census taker didn't know how to spell it. He should have just entered a country.

Yes, Robert Otterson and Elizabeth Little were married in Newcastle in 1881. I have no idea how he got from Ireland to Newcastle. Maybe looking for a job in the coal mines.

I was not considering Baltimore, Ireland, since the previous records found in Ireland were all in Northern Ireland. There are so many Bally-somethings in Ireland! It makes it hard to pinpoint a place.

thanks to all for your efforts on my behalf.