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Sidney William Stock - Help Please
« on: Wednesday 15 October 14 19:52 BST (UK) »
Good evening all

I'm trying to find more details about Sidney William Stock. He married Lilian Gosling (1915-2011) on 8 April 1933 and was recorded as aged 20 and his occupation was recorded as a lorry driver. He had four children with Lilian: Douglas (1933-2002), Mervyn (1934-2001), Margaret (b 1937) and Peter (b 1939).

His father is recorded as Albert Stock (deceased) who was an engineer.

Ancestry's GRO has not thrown up any records that match his name, but a FreeBMD search returned one result that matched between 1912 and 1915:

Stock    Sidney W    Keen    Bridgend    11a   1368

Ancestry returned one result for Sidney Stock on a British Army WW1 Pension Record, with the father recorded as Albert.

Many thanks in advance.

Chris

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Re: Sidney William Stock - Help Please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 October 14 20:01 BST (UK) »
If Sidney was born c1913 he was far too young to have entered WW1! (1914-1918)

Marriage for parents?
December qtr 1911
Bristol district     vol 6a, page 332

Stock, Albert E
+ and on the same page +
Keen, Lily
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Sidney William Stock - Help Please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 October 14 20:07 BST (UK) »
the military record is for Sidney William Stock's father
Is this the record you have?

Albert Edward Stock 10th Glostors reg no 17580
discharged from army on health grounds " Pulmonary tubercolisis Cavity Right  been In sanatorium before joining Army"

married Lucy Keen in Bristol 9 Oct 1911
Children
Winifred Florence Stock b. 21 Jan 1913 Bristol

Suz
Sydney William Stock b. 1 N ov 1914 Ogmore Vale Glamorgan
Lucy is given as next of kin  address 8 Llewellyn St Ogmore Vale Glamorgan
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Re: Sidney William Stock - Help Please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 October 14 20:13 BST (UK) »
Hi, sorry for the confusion. The WW1 record was for Albert Stock, but had his wife Lily and children Winifred and Sidney recorded on it.


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Re: Sidney William Stock - Help Please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 October 14 20:24 BST (UK) »


His father is recorded as Albert Stock (deceased) who was an engineer.





Many thanks in advance.

Chris

It looks like Albert Edward Stock died 1922?
Albert's wife is Lucy on military records and transcribed as Lily on FreeBMD

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Re: Sidney William Stock - Help Please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 October 14 12:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the info you've provided so far. I'm still unsure if this is the correct person though.

His marriage certificate states his age as 20 in 1933, which would put his birthday as c1913, yet all these records point to the birth of someone c1914. Is this likely to be the result of some sort of clerical or information error?

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Re: Sidney William Stock - Help Please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 17 October 14 12:34 BST (UK) »
Could you post details from marriage cert?
Father's name & occ witnesses etc

noone checked ages given on marriage -and age on death is the age given by informant

Also trancribing errors can be made on marriage cert copies
My grandfather was 36 when he married and when |i obtained his marriage cert (copy) his age had been entered as 30 -the 6 being mistaken for 0
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Re: Sidney William Stock - Help Please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 October 14 12:56 BST (UK) »
Birth reg's for Sidney William Stock -the only one is Dec qtr 1914 -which has previously been posted for you

The only other c 1913/4 I could find was
Sidney William Stocks 1912 Watford reg dist
His father was Thomas Stocks -mother Lily Foster
Lily had several children possibly from previous marriage?
Thomas & Lily married Watford Reg office 8 Jun 1905

It looks like Sidney William Stocks died Sept 1982 age 70 Honiton Devon - hio.b. given as 8 Jun 1912

so father on marriage cert should give clue as to which Sidney??

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Re: Sidney William Stock - Help Please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 October 14 13:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the info you've provided so far. I'm still unsure if this is the correct person though.

His marriage certificate states his age as 20 in 1933, which would put his birthday as c1913, yet all these records point to the birth of someone c1914. Is this likely to be the result of some sort of clerical or information error?

That rather depends on when his birthday was?
My birthday is in June.
So, any records this year before my birthday will show me as 60 ( and born 1954!).
Any records after my birthday will show me as 61 (and born 1953!).
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)