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A bit of a Wild(ing) card!
« on: Monday 21 April 14 18:14 BST (UK) »
This a bit of a cheeky ask.

Can someone kindly cross reference this for me and see if i have made a wrong assumption here?

Basically i have a Zilpha Wilding. She was born in Hardmead in 1845 She is listed as married to William J Flute.

So is she related to the wildin family in Astwood/Hardmead in the late 1700's?


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Re: A bit of a Wild(ing) card!
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 April 14 20:17 BST (UK) »
Do you have her parent's names from either the marriage certificate, or census returns?

Where are her parents in 1841/1851?

A tree on Ancestry implies that the family came from Suffolk? ;D
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Re: A bit of a Wild(ing) card!
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 April 14 22:23 BST (UK) »
I have traced her back a couple of generations. I discounted the suffolk link as I found cencus data and other trees suggesting bucks.

I think she is related to a john wildin born in 1785 who I think is son of john and suzzana from Calverton.


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Re: A bit of a Wild(ing) card!
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 April 14 22:32 BST (UK) »
What census data?

Don't jump to conclusions! ;D
Follow each generation back using marriage & birth certificates, or baptism and marriage entries from Parish Registers.

Christening of Zilpha:
30th March 1845, at Hardmead
Zilpha Wilding daughter of George & Eliza Wilding

1851 census: Class: HO107; Piece: 1723; Folio: 514; Page: 2
George (34), Eliza (31), Jesse (10), James (8 ), Zilpha (6), Frederick (4), Mary (1), and Emma Gudgeon, Niece (6)

1841 census: Class: HO107; Piece: 57; Book: 2; Folio: 11; Page: 25
George (24), Elia (21), Jesse (3 months)


Marriage:
September qtr 1840
Newport Pagnell district    vol 6, page 519

Wilding, George
Christmas, Eliza

Purchasing this certificate will give you George's father.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: A bit of a Wild(ing) card!
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 April 14 23:01 BST (UK) »
Yup that's what I found last night. Now I found some evidence suggesting his ( George) father is John, married to Mary Willy.

I don't like assumption hence double checking on here but I have a theory this is the brother of two wildin sisters I found ages ago.

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Re: A bit of a Wild(ing) card!
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 April 14 23:31 BST (UK) »
A few trees on Ancestry (at least 7) have George's parents as John Wilding and Mary Willey.

They all have John as being in Suffolk, living there in 1841 through 1861.

However, there are glaring errors in those trees!
E.G. children to John's wife Mary Upshaw, 1811-1840
children to John's wife Mary Willey, 1817?!
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Re: A bit of a Wild(ing) card!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 April 14 01:45 BST (UK) »
Ancestry is full of wrong trees. I am confident John was Georges father but his details are not clear.

This is the point I got too. Now I found some while ago that a john wildin was born about 1790 in Astwood/hardmead.

Ancestry can be a bit vague at times! Different spelling and birth dates can make a huge difference to the records you find.

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Re: A bit of a Wild(ing) card!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 April 14 08:18 BST (UK) »
Hardmead marriage 13 Sep 1840, George Wilding age 23, bachelor of Hardmead, servant, son of John Wilding, shepherd to Eliza Christmas age 20, spinster of Hardmead, servant, daughter of William Christmas, watchmaker. By banns, witnesses James Linger & Elizabeth Hall.
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Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: A bit of a Wild(ing) card!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 April 14 08:42 BST (UK) »
A John & Mary Wilding, shepherd of Hardmead baptised daughter Mary Ann on 10 Oct 1830
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Partridge - North Beds; Northants & Peterborough
Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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