Samuel NORTH b.1866

[Rainbow Quartz]

Hi
I have spent many hours trying to find what happened to Samuel North, and have found quite a lot of information but there are gaps and also several records of marriages/deaths and I don't know which, if any, are mine! This is what I know:

1871 Census, living with parents Charles and Sophia in Broadwinsor, age 4, born Broadwinsor
Record of birth Q3 1866 Beaminster District fits with this.
1881 Census, living with Bailey family as apprentice blacksmith, age 14 but no birthplace given (not seen original, so not 100% certain this is my Samuel)
1891 Census, one record working on farm in Wincanton, age 29, born Broadwinsor (birthplace right, age not, also says married, but no sign of wife)
1901 Census there are three possible records, but I don't know if any are right (not seen originals)
1911 Census, one record, but born Churchstanton, so didn't think it was right
Three possible records of marriage, Q4 1888 to Emily Elizabeth Saunders or Emily Jane Tarr Taunton; Q1 1892 to Eliza Ann Hole or Rose Pope Wincanton; Q1 1895 to Emily Hoare Taunton.
Two possible deaths, Q2 1910 age 43 Wincanton; Q4 1927 age 61 Taunton.

I would really welcome any advice as to how to try and find my Samuel among all these records.
Thank you for reading this.
Cheers
Mand
 

[judi2632]

1892 marriage is to Eliza Ann Hole ....the 1901 census proves this

1901
Samuel North 34    Castle Cary, Somerset, England ( Ordinary Agricultural Lab)
Annie North    48 Hadspen, Somerset, England
Thomas Hole 19 STEP SON Ansford, Somerset, England
Polly Hole   17 STEP DAUGHTER Ansford, Somerset, England
Mabel North 9 Daughter Ansford, Somerset, England
Mary North   7 Daughter Castle Cary, Somerset, England

soof the 2 names  the 1892 Marriage you mention you can discount Rose Pope

But Annie North previously Annie Hole  .....
this is the 1891 census for her
Eliza A Hole 37 WIDOW born  Hadopen, Somerset, England
Tom Hole 9 Son  Ansford, Somerset, England
Maryan  ( Polly ) Hole 7 Ansford, Somerset, England

So we need to find her first marriage to Unknown Hole to find maiden name on that one

[groom]

Re the 1901 censuses


One is the Samuel North born 1867  Churchstanton, Devon married to an Emily E and was a labourer with 4 children. Living in Taunton St James.

One is Samuel north born 1867 Castle Cary, Somerset, married to Annie. Ordinary Ag lab with 2 stepsons and 2 daughters.

There is another Samuel North born 1866, place of birth unkown. He is a fitter in a foundary, single and a lodger at 11, St Andrew's Terrace, Rowbarton, St Andrew, Somerset.

The last is a possible if he was an apprentice blacksmith.

[judi2632]

death on Free Reg
samuel North aged 43
30 Jun 1910
County Somerset
Place Castle Cary
All Saints Church
Living ( Abode Castle Cary )
Buried in the cemetery

SO that would indicate the Samuel North I mentioned in the previous post .for this death .

[Rainbow Quartz]

Thanks for the extra info judi & groom.  I suspect that Samuel b. Churchstanton m. Emily Elizabeth Saunders and Samuel b. Castle Cary m. Eliza Annie Hole and died Castle Cary 1910 aren't mine, so I think I'll 'park' them for now!
Groom, the Samuel b. 1866 (no birthplace) who is a foundry worker sounds more promising. I'll see if I can track him down.
Cheers
Mand

[groom]

Groom, the Samuel b. 1866 (no birthplace) who is a foundry worker sounds more promising. I'll see if I can track him down.

Here is the reference for 1901:

RG13 Piece 2276  Folio 202 page 43

[Rainbow Quartz]

Thanks Groom, will have a look tomorrow in the library (just used the last of my pay as you go credits on all this!)
There is only one Samuel North on the 1911, b. Churchstanton, so I think he is the one married to Emily E, and I'm assuming he is the one who died Q4 1927 in Taunton, age 61.
I have found another death, Q3 1901 in Taunton, but the age is given as 39, which is a bit older than my Samuel, who consistently seems to be born in 1866. I know birth years and ages can be wrongly recorded, either intentionally or not, so think this might be my Samuel. Is sending for the death cert the only way to be sure?
Cheers
Mand

[groom]

Is sending for the death cert the only way to be sure?

Playing Devil's advocate, how would you know for certain even if you get the certificate? It would only give his age (ie 39 as on the record you've found) address, occupation and cause of death. If he died away from home, the person registering the death might be a stranger as well.

[Rainbow Quartz]

Oh So.......I might never know? If it is Samuel the foundry worker who died in 1901 then he is likely to be still lodging in Taunton. I wonder if he had an accident at work? I might speculate on the cert on the off chance that there's something on it. I have a third marriage for a Samuel North, to Emily Hoare, Q1 1895 in Taunton, so this death could be him, whoever he is! I think I'll have another search on the census returns to find and try and eliminate him first. These things are sent to try us!
Doesn't do to have it all too easy - might get bored!!