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NORTHWICH
« on: Thursday 19 July 07 04:39 BST (UK) »
Trying in vain to find any record of a James CLARKE,  hay dealer,  in Cheshire before 1853,
He had a son named Thomas Clarke bc 1821 in Northwich.   I have run their names on the 1841 and 1851 censuses and do not come up with any possibility.     Thomas m. Alice (Croft) Freeman in Liverpool on 26 Sept 1853.   He died in Lancashire in 1864.     There is one listing for a Thomas Clarke b 1824 Northwich who m.  Ann McNaight.  Does anyone recognize this couple ?

Any data or advise will truly be appreciated,

Regards,  Bettye

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Re: NORTHWICH
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 July 07 18:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Bettye
On the 1861 census Thomas & Alice Clarke are ennumerated (along with other children) with a daughter Elizabeth Clarke aged 16 b.Liverpool. It looks to me that possibly Thomas had been married previously, daughter Elizabeth being born c.1845 in Liverpool to a first wife.
Might be worth investigating Ann McNaight.
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Re: NORTHWICH
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 May 11 21:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Bettye,
I have just googled Thomas Clarke of Northwich and came across your rootschat.
I am searching for the Clarke Family and some of the information refers to my Family too!!
I don't know how to get in touch with you as this is the first time  that I have used Rootschat.
Any contact from you would be appreciated.
Regards
Annielaurie

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Re: NORTHWICH
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 May 11 09:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Annielaurie and welcome to Rootschat!

Bettye was last online in December 2010 - hopefully she will see this message and respond.  When you have made a couple more posts you will be able to send her a personal message - see below:

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Hope this helps,

Jean
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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)


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Re: NORTHWICH
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 May 11 11:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Jean,
Thank you so much for your reply and warm welcome.
I am only new at this online genealogy so I hope everyone will understand if I am a bit slow at first.
I have done a lot of research in the past and have hit a brick wall with the Clarke side of my Family tree and was delighted to get a glimmer of hope that could move my research on.


I do hope Bettye sees this post.
Regards

Annielaurie

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Re: NORTHWICH
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 May 11 11:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Annielaurie,

I've sent a message to Bettye, so hopefully she will return to this thread.

Meanwhile, if you have any specific queries that we may be able to help with why not start your own thread....  :)

Jean
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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)

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Re: NORTHWICH
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 May 11 16:50 BST (UK) »
Welcome Annielaurie,
I will post this for you but Bettye may already have this info.

1851 Census
Garston, Lancashire
HO107/2192/1183/10
Alice FREEMAN, 29, Head, Widow, Laundress, born Bickersteth
Elizabeth Freeman, 6, Daug, born Liverpool
Edwin Freeman, 2, Son, born Liverpool
Thomas Freeman, 7mths, Son, born Liverpool

Next door are;
John CROFTS, 64, Head, Mar, Ag Lab, born Bickerstaffe
Catherine Crofts, 55, Wife, Mar, born Haughton
Possible Parents for Alice

So in 1861 when Thomas Clarke and Alice Freeman (nee Croft) are Married the first 3 Children are from her 1st Marriage;

1861 we have;
Thomas CLARK, 37
Alice, 39
Elizabeth, 16
Edwin, 12
Thomas, 10
Ann, 7
John/Caroline Croft are living next door here also.

Trish :)
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Re: NORTHWICH
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 May 11 18:32 BST (UK) »
If you need any help with any Garston connections, let me know....I live there...and my dad worked in the Laundry there..I would be interested to know what that address was...and I presume Alice would have been born Bickerstaffe - written Bickersteth
William Freeman married Alice Croft in 1844 in Liverpool
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Re: NORTHWICH
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 May 11 19:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for all that information....wow
It came as a bit of a surprise to me as my Great Grandfather is the Edwin Clarke mentioned and I could not find any record of his birth or baptism anywhere and now I know  that he was born Freeman and not Clarke it all makes sense.

I will now try to find his birth or baptism under the name of Freeman.Edwins marriage certificate shows his Father as Thomas  Clarke so  I am now going to try the Freeman connection which I think is the blood line that I should be following.....you can tell I am new at this rootschat but I am amazed at the wonderful and knowledgable people out there who are willing to help.
Thank you all so much.
Regards
Annielaurie