Rothwell - Child deaths are these correct? Any help appreciated

[romawi]

I have found that my ggrandparents Richard and Alice Rothwell from Heap, Heywood, Lancs (1861)and Birkenhead, Cheshire (1871), had 11 children in total. Only 6 of which survived. Not unusual, but still a lot. None of the missing 5 can be traced through census, so died very young between census's.
I have definitely found 9 children now: But am missing the last two:
One child Albert (definitely related) died aged 0 in 1866 and on the cheshire BMD there are two more Rothwell children listed as dying that year in Birkenhead very young. The question I have is is there anyway I can find out details of either births or deaths to confirm or reject without requesting certs? What other resources are available for either Birkenhead specifically Holy Trinity?


Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1866

ROTHWELL

Albert

0

Birkenhead

Wirral

BIR/38/63

 

ROTHWELL

Hannah

4

Birkenhead

Wirral

BIR/39/48

 

ROTHWELL

Richard

2

Birkenhead

Wirral

BIR/39/44

Hoping someone out there maybe able to help

Many thanks

[garstonite]

all christened at Holy Trinity,Birkenhead - parents Richard and Alice Rothwell
28th jan 1866 Albert Rothwell
28th jan 1866 Margaret Rothwell
23rd jan 1870 Eliza Alice Rothwell
19th may 1872 Isaac Rothwell
30th dec 1877 Annie Rothwell
30th dec 1877 Sarah Rothwell
30th dec 1877 Eunice Rothwell

www.familysearch.org

are there any of these you did not have ??.....if you have all these children - can you post the names of the definites you have - and those you think might be ?....this will save a little time in researching the 11 children ...
do you know whether Albert was the 1st one born in Birkenhead ?

[garstonite]

Edenfield to Heywood is 7 miles
is this a possible ??...was Richard a weaver by occupation ??

Baptism: 3 Apr 1864 Chapel, Edenfield, Lancashire, England
Ellis Rothwell - Son of Richard Rothwell & Alice
    Abode: Plunge
    Occupation: Weaver
    Baptised by: Charles F. Hildyard

I have looked up the village of Plunge - and it just comes up with details of Edenfield ...so no help there

[romawi]

Hi, thank you i have all these plus - Joseph Rothwell (1867), Emma (1878), I am not sure if Albert was first. Richard and Alice were married in 1860, so I thought that maybe there must have been one or two before Albert in the 5 years after they married. That's why I was looking from 1860 to 1865. The only other two I could see were Hannah 1862-1866 and Richard 1864-1866 but need to tie them to the parents somehow.

As for Ellis - I thought maybe this might work but found him again in the 1871 census alive and well with another family of Rothwell's and father wasn't a weaver but a boilermaker, always.
Cheers

[heatherjulie]

What was Alice's maiden name please?

Heather

[heatherjulie]

There is a James Rothwell christened 26th Nov 1860 at Heywood parents are Richard and Alice

[garstonite]

freebmd
mar qtr 1860 - Richard Rothwell to Alice Booth ....were you thinking maybe a baby born before the marriage ??...ie    ****** Booth ??

[heatherjulie]

There are a couple of Rothwell/Booth births but they are in Bolton

[garstonite]

There are a couple of Rothwell/Booth births but they are in Bolton

Could you put them up please Heather for us to have a look at ...
AA Routeplanner...   Heywood to Bolton is 9 miles ...so they could well be the missing Rothwell children ??