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Re: Moses Bateman born 1826
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 09:27 BST (UK) »
The marriage certificate confirms that Moses Bateman bachelor married Elizabeth Nelson spinster the daughter of Joseph Bateman but as yet I have been unable to find a birth for her.  The transcription must have missed her name off.  I cannot find her on the 1841 census but I am still looking for that and the connection with the entry for her brother.

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Re: Moses Bateman born 1826
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 10:09 BST (UK) »
Bit confused there Elizabeths father is Joseph Bateman?

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Re: Moses Bateman born 1826
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 11:32 BST (UK) »
Very strange! I decided to go sideways a bit

William Cadman on the 1851 census in Ercall Magna Workhouse - there is also a Maria Cadman there aged 8 (registered 1842) born Walsall - possible sister?

This Maria married a William Gee 1864 Rushall father listed as James Cadman

AH HA!

On the 1841 census we have at Ann Street Rushall all born in county except James and Sophia

James Cadman 45 Stone miner
Sophia Cadman 30
George Cadman 10 stone miner
Elizabeth Cadman 10
Lace Cadman 10 stone miner (might be Lance?)
Thomas Cadman 5
Sophia Cadman 4
William Cadman 10 months

HO107/980/13

And on FreeREG we have

14.8.1836 St Michaels Rushall

James Cadman Batchelor of Walsall to Sophia Melsom spinster of Walsall - no parents listed witnesses William and Elizabeth Lees

FreeREG also throws up the baptisms at St Lawrence Darlaston

George Melsom born 11.6.1826 baptised 26.11.1826 parents Joseph and Sophia
Charlotte Melsom baptised 7.9.1834 parents Joseph and Sophia

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Re: Moses Bateman born 1826
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 12:19 BST (UK) »
I have found James and Sophia on the 1851 census HO107/2029/657/19

Scrap that I'm not sure thats the right family there is the burial of a Sophia Cadman 29.1.1845 St Matthew Walsall aged 36 which would be the right age

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Re: Moses Bateman born 1826
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 12:30 BST (UK) »
Yes Thomas is living with an Ann Cadman in 1851 (listed as brother)there is also a Thomas Melsom living with them listed as nephew HO107/2023/723/49 I suspect Sophia and James may have died

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Re: Moses Bateman born 1826
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 12:37 BST (UK) »
Possible baptism

Thomas Melson 17.2.1833 Gosforth, Northumberland parents Joseph and Sophia - could this be one of Sophia's other children?

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Re: Moses Bateman born 1826
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 13:06 BST (UK) »
I am now totally confused.  The problem of William Cadman arose from the 1861 census for Moses Bateman 5 Gresley Cottage Row Of Houses Cappy Lane Church Gresley Staffordshire where William is listed as Brother.  My first thoughts were because he was not a Bateman he must be a brother of Elizabeth but as she is a Nelson this does not hold good.  I may have to give up on this as now I do not know which way to turn but thankyou for your help.  If you have any other suggestions I will be very pleased.

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Re: Moses Bateman born 1826
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 13:42 BST (UK) »
Hi think you are a bit confused here

Elizabeths surname is Melsom not Nelson (mistranscribed/misheard/misspelt) more than likely her mother is Sophia who married James Cadman and was previously married to Joseph Melsom who was her father. William Cadman on the 1861 census is her half brother from her mothers second marriage

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