Am i on the right track

[CaroleW]

There is an Eva Cornforth death in Gateshead in 1952 - born 1908

To research Eva - you need a copy of the 1942 marriage cert to see whether she was single or widowed.  It should also tell you her age and her fathers name and occupation.  If she was a widow - her fathers surname should be different

To research Gabriella - you need a copy of her birth cert to find her fathers name and occupation and confirm her mothers name

[Teltheone]

I'm stuck !!

I've have a copy of Gabrielle's cert.

It confirms Eva Mary as a Ramsay formerly Rawlings and Father as Ernest Thomas Ramsay both residing in Pentonville road, London 1928. Ramsay was spelt as ramsey, but altered and countersigned.

Now, although I have the names of her parents. I cannot find any relationship between Ramsay - Rawlings ie Marriage, or birth of a Eva Mary Rawlings. I've searched for either version of Ramsay and various soundings of Rawlings via BDM, Findmypast and Familysearch.

Eva died in Cardiff, 1981 and birth given as 1889, Married Robert Cornforth in Darlington 1942.

Any tips of what to do next.

thanks

Sorry, i have copied this topic into London/Middlesex part of the forum.

[CaroleW]

Her 1981 death reg shows her as Eva May born 6.11.1889

That would make her 40yrs old when she had Gabriella and 53yrs old when she married Cornforth.   

It could also mean she was married before she married Ramsay (if she did marry him) in which case she would not have married him as Rawlings

From my reply above

To research Eva - you need a copy of the 1942 marriage cert to see whether she was single or widowed.  It should also tell you her age and her fathers name and occupation.  If she was a widow - her fathers surname should be different

[Teltheone]

Now, although I have the names of her parents. I cannot find any relationship between Ramsay - Rawlings ie Marriage, or birth of a Eva Mary Rawlings. I've searched for either version of Ramsay and various soundings of Rawlings via BDM, Findmypast and Familysearch.

Sorry but records show no connection between Rawlings/Ramsay. But how could Eva take the surname as Ramsay. ??

Eva Mary or May Cornforth death was in Cardiff 1981.

thanks

[CaroleW]

Eva could have taken any surname if she never married Ernest Thomas Ramsay.  There is no marriage for an Ernest T or Thomas Ramsay and no death prior to 1942.

Assuming he was a similar age to Eva - there is no birth registration for an Ernest Thomas Ramsay between 1884-1891.  There is one in 1895 but he only died 1951 in Oxfordshire

By the time she had Gabriella - she could have been married previously so until we know what name she gave for her father on the 1942 marriage cert - it's anybody's guess.

In the absence of any birth reg for an Eva May Rawlings you may need to consider that she was illegitimate and her mother later married a Rawlings.  Freebmd has 22 "Eva May" births in the December qtr 1889 (assuming 1889 was her correct birthyear)

[Teltheone]

Thanks,

The only other thing I know from what various family members have said.

Eva's parents lived in Thirsk on a farm with horses to do with harness racing in the 50s/60s/70s.

Will have to purchase Eva and Robert's Marriage Cert.

thanks

[CaroleW]

Eva's parents lived in Thirsk on a farm with horses to do with harness racing in the 50s/60s/70s.

That doesn't tie in with Eva being born in 1889.  If you are referring to the 1850/60/70's - her parents would have been rather elderly when she was born.  If they were running a farm in the 1850's they would have been born in the 1830's.

If you are referring to the 1950/60/70's .............  If Eva was born 1889 then her parents would have been born in the 1860's so would either have been dead by 1950 or far too old to be running a horse farm

[Teltheone]

Sorry, I might have gone abit too far for the 60s & 70's.

It was certainly in the 1950's as my wife spent her school summer holidays there.

thanks

[CaroleW]

If Eva was born in 1889 then her parents would have been in their 80's by the 1950's.  Eva herself was in her 60's by the 1950's

There were no deaths for anybody called Rawlings in Thirsk between 1951-1971

Are you sure your wife is referring to Eva's parents??