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« on: Tuesday 07 October 14 21:59 BST (UK) »
I thought i had this line on my tree pretty much tied up but a fellow amateur geneologist has thrown a spanner in my works!! I had meant to purchase certs at a later date (my paternal grandmothers line needed money spending on certs and couldnt afford all i needed) My paternal grandfathers line, i believe, goes like this;
Derek stainforth 1929-1999 (listed staniforth on freebmd) m. (1953) Brenda wilkinson 1931-2007
Frederick stainforth 1899-1961 m. (1923) isabella stacey 1900-?
George stainforth 1869-1943 m. (1889) mary jane shaw 1868-1961
George stainforth 1839 (basford,notts) -1907 m. (Sept 9 1860, basford) ann allen 1841-1884 basford
George senior was the illigitimate son of mary stainforth, who later married a matthew burton in basford.
The person who i have been in contact with believes his family also desend from George stainforth senior, but his George married a lady called Emma and the family remained in basford. I have now ordered Fredericks marriage cert to check his father was george stainforth (stone mason). My subscriptions have now lapsed so i only hav access to the free sites. On the 1881 census i can see george senior living in sheffield with ann and their children. Can anyone access the other censuses to see which one of us is on the right lines with our family tree? I can also see a george stainforth on freecen 1891 living with his wife Emma, his dob would have been c.1864 though, and the corresponding birth on freebmd is under George stainforth, born basford.
I know i am asking a lot, but i feel it just needs a fresh pair of eyes to look over it as i am sure we must be missing something!! Any help would be much appreciated, thank u so much for reading 😃😃😃
Stainforth - Sheffield, Hucknall Torkard, Chesterfield
Wilkinson - Sheffield, Wolverhampton
Northall - Sheffield, Tipton
Harding - Rotherham, Atherstone, Lidgley, Mancetter
Hutchinson - Rotherham, Greasborough
Atherley - Atherstone
Rogers - Tipton
Allen - Hucknall Torkard
Burton - Hucknall Torkard
Lee - Sheffield
Stacey - Sheffield
Hibberd - Sheffield

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Re: Stainforth
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 October 14 22:25 BST (UK) »
Hi these 1901 census returns looked to be the two George's:-

George Staniforth 31 occ Stone Mason
Mary J 32
John Wm 10
Jessie 7
Heorge 5
Bertha 3
Frederick 1
All born Sheffield
Residing at 28, Greystones Road, Sheffield
Census Ref RG13/4352/68/44

George Stainforth 38 occ Coal Miner Hewer b Basford
Emma 33
Samuel 8
Florence 5
Gladys 3
Sissy 1
Plus 2 Boarders
All other than George born Hucknall Torkard
Residing at Watnall Road, Hucknall Torkard, Basford
Census Ref RG13/3157/92/6

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Re: Stainforth
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 October 14 22:47 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that keyboard86 :) that confirms that the George born in basford is the definately older than my george. could you see either George on the 1871 census?
Stainforth - Sheffield, Hucknall Torkard, Chesterfield
Wilkinson - Sheffield, Wolverhampton
Northall - Sheffield, Tipton
Harding - Rotherham, Atherstone, Lidgley, Mancetter
Hutchinson - Rotherham, Greasborough
Atherley - Atherstone
Rogers - Tipton
Allen - Hucknall Torkard
Burton - Hucknall Torkard
Lee - Sheffield
Stacey - Sheffield
Hibberd - Sheffield

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Re: Stainforth
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 October 14 22:50 BST (UK) »
The guy has just sent me this;
I see George Jr. (born 1869) in two different places in the 1871 census. Once with Matthew Burton as the grandson (misspelled George Stamford) in Hucknall, and I also have him with George and Ann Stainforth/Staniforth in Sheffield. His place of birth is listed as Hucknall on the first, and Sheffield on the second. I'm still wondering if these are two different Georges.
Looking at the 1891 census, he turns up again in Hucknall with a place of birth listed as Hucknall. At this point he has a wife named Emma.

Is it possible for 1person to be on a census twice?
Stainforth - Sheffield, Hucknall Torkard, Chesterfield
Wilkinson - Sheffield, Wolverhampton
Northall - Sheffield, Tipton
Harding - Rotherham, Atherstone, Lidgley, Mancetter
Hutchinson - Rotherham, Greasborough
Atherley - Atherstone
Rogers - Tipton
Allen - Hucknall Torkard
Burton - Hucknall Torkard
Lee - Sheffield
Stacey - Sheffield
Hibberd - Sheffield


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Re: Stainforth
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 October 14 23:14 BST (UK) »
Hi again, these are the two 1871 returns:-

George Staniforth 31 occ Stone Mason b ?enell Torket? Notts
Ann 29 b Bullwell
Hannah 8 b Bulwell
Alice 6 b Sheffield
George 2 b Sheffield
Residing at Franklin Street, Eccleshall Bierlow
Census Ref RG10/4673/46/4

Matthew Burton 58 occ Framework Knitter
Elizabeth 50
George Stainforth 6 or 4 or 1!! Grandson b Basford
Residing at New Row, Hucknall Torkard
Census Ref RG10/3491/82/26

In 1861 Matthew Burton aged 41 is married to an Elizabeth 33 with a Maria Stainforth 15 and an Ephraim Stainforth 13 along with a Mary Burton 9 Elizabeth Burton 5 and a Herbert Burton 1
Census Ref RG09/2442/59/5

In 1851 Matthew Burton 37 Elizh 29 George Stainforth 14 Maria Stainforth 5 and Ephiahrin Stainforth 2 plus John Burton Father 64
Census Ref HO107/2127/656/48

In 1841 Matthew Burton 30 Mary 25 Hannah 7 and George 1 are with Robert Stainforth 55 Ann 50 Martha 13 Niclos 9
Census ref HO107/858 / 2/10 / 12
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Re: Stainforth
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 October 14 23:19 BST (UK) »
1891 for one with Emma:-

George Stainforth 27 occ Coal Miner b Hucknall Torkard
Emma 23 b Hucknall Torkard
Residing at Watnall Road, Hucknall Torkard
Census Ref RG12/2675/67/29

1891 for one with Mary J:-

George Stainforth 23 occ Labourer General
Mary J 23
John Wm 2 months
Fred Shaw 17 Brother in Law occ Table Blade Grinder
Ada Shaw 12 Sister in Law
Ellen Shaw 8 Sister in Law
All born Eccleshall Bierlow
Residing at Dove Houses, Dubbing Hill Lower, Eccleshall Bierlow
Census Ref RG12/3811/130/11
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Re: Stainforth
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 October 14 00:08 BST (UK) »
Tjank you so much!! I cant find the george that marries emma in the 1881 census. I am wondeeing if both georges maybe matthew burtons grandsons
Stainforth - Sheffield, Hucknall Torkard, Chesterfield
Wilkinson - Sheffield, Wolverhampton
Northall - Sheffield, Tipton
Harding - Rotherham, Atherstone, Lidgley, Mancetter
Hutchinson - Rotherham, Greasborough
Atherley - Atherstone
Rogers - Tipton
Allen - Hucknall Torkard
Burton - Hucknall Torkard
Lee - Sheffield
Stacey - Sheffield
Hibberd - Sheffield