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COMPLETED Help Decipher 1831 Will Warwickshire
« on: Saturday 27 December 14 05:45 GMT (UK) »
This is the first part of 3 parts of Thomas Tidmarsh Will /Probate1831  who died 1830 in Balsall Warwickshire.

Any help with deciphering this first part of the will would be appreciated.
I will post the other two parts later on.


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This is the Last Will & Testament of me Thomas Tidmarsh of the hamlet of Balsall in the parish of Hampton in Arden in the county of Warwick, Yoman.
 First I will and direct that all my just debts and expences shall be fully paid and satistfied. I give and divise all ?---? my three cottages or
tenements with the gardens and piore of land tenements adjoining and belonging situate at Beechwood in the parish of Berkswell in the county of
Warwick now in the   ?------? occupations of Thomas Abel ---Hathway(< ?) and William Parker which I lately purchased of and from William ?----? &
my brother William Tidmarsh of the parish  of Berkeswell afiresiad, labourer his  ?--? and assigns for over I give and ?--? unto my friends John Albutt
 of ?---? in the county of Warwic, scoolmaster William Green of the hamelt of Balsall foresaid farmer (<?), and Henry Renolds(<?) of the parish of
Berkeswell aforesaid labourer, and to their ?----? assigns all freehold and copyhold massuages lands tenements and ?----?itenement ocuate ?-------?
and being in the ?-----? parishes of Berkeswell ans Balsall in ?-----? in the county od Warwick (not ?----?before ?evicse) or ?-------? in the kingdom
 of England & hold the same to know (<?) the said John Albutt, William Green and Henry Renolds (<?) their ?----? and assigns ?---? ?---? to let and set
 the said freehold and copyhold massuages or tenements lands and ?---?itenents ?----?  this ust??al life of my housekeeper Mary Lowe  except (< ?) the house
 in which I now ?--? which I ?---? the said Mary Lowe shall be allwed to occupy ?--? her natural life together with furnature were being   therein ?---? ?--?
 and f?------?  ?--? that my said trustees (< ?) or the  ?-------? or ?-------? of ?-----? or ?-----?

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I can only make a few words on the next few lines of this first part of this Will


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Re: Help Decipher 1831 Will Warwickshire
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 27 December 14 09:43 GMT (UK) »
Each line of transcript corresponds to it's line of text in the original image.
Blue - I think that's the word!
Red - can't work it out!

This is the Last Will & Testament
of me Thomas Tidmarsh of the Hamlet of Balsal in the parish of
Hampton in Arden in the county of Warwick, Yeoman. First I will and direct
that all my just debts and funeral expenses shall be fully paid and satisfied.
I give and divise all those my three cottages or tenements with the Gardens
and piece of land thereunto adjoining and belonging situate at Beechwood
in the parish of Barkeswell in the said county of  Warwick now in the  several
occupations of Thomas Abel      Hathway and William Parker & which
I lately purchased of and from William Grassmore,  to my brother William
Tidmarsh of the parish of Barkeswell aforesaid, labourer, his heirs and
assigns for ever. I give and devise unto my friends John Albutt of ?-----
in the county of Warwick, Schoolmaster , William Green of the Hamlet
of Balsal aforesaid farmer , and Henry Reynolds of the parish of Barkeswell
aforesaid labourer, and to their heirs and assigns all freehold and
copyhold messuages lands tenements and hereditament actuate standing
and being in the several parishes of Barkeswell and Balsal in the said
county of Warwick (not hereinbefore devised)  or  elsewhere in the Kingdom of
England. To hold the same to them the said John Albutt, William Green and
Henry Reynolds their heirs and assigns upon trust to let and set the said
freehold and copyhold messuages or tenements lands and hereditaments during
the natural life of my housekeeper Mary Lowe  except  the house in which
I now reside which I direct the said Mary Lowe shall be allowed to occupy
during her natural life together with furniture now being therein ?------- ?------
and further  trust that my said trustees or the survivors or survivor of them or those
heirs of such survivors shall out of the rents and profits of the said freehold and
copyhold messuages or tenements lands and hereditaments pay to the said Mary
Lowe an annuity or ?----- yearly sum of forty pounds during the term of her
natural life and to my sister Sarah Pallott of Coleshill in the County of
Warwick widow and her assigns out of the residue of the said rents and
Profits of the said freehold and copyhold Estates after payment of ?--- said
annuity of forty pounds an annuity or ?----- yearly sum of Ten pounds
which I direct shall be paid to her during the natural life of the said
Mary Lowe in case my said sister shall so long live and from and now


Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Help Decipher 1831 Will Warwickshire
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 27 December 14 13:07 GMT (UK) »
These are the red items remaining from Ambly's work:

...of Meriden in the County of Warwick...

...now being therein rent free...

...an annuity or clear yearly sum...

...after payment of the said annuity...

Last red item is clear again.

I'm not sure I agree with Grassmore but I'm also not sure what it should be - some combination of "u", "n" or "m" perhaps?

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Re: Help Decipher 1831 Will Warwickshire
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 December 14 13:53 GMT (UK) »
I read the name as Cranmore :D
PENDAL & variants: Suffolk; Bardwell, Tannington, Weybread, Dennington & Worlingworth
ELLINOR: Suffolk; Redgrave/ Gislingham.
GRAYSTON: Suffolk; Ipswich.
GIRLING: Suffolk; Stradbroke/Ipswich
HAWES: Suffolk; Harkstead/Holbrook/Capel St Mary/Ipswich
BECK: Co Durham; Chopwell & Northumberland; Newcastle upon Tyne.
MILLER: Cumberland; Mawbray/Hayrigg/ Silloth.
FAIRLAM: Co Durham; Allendale Cottages, Low Westwood, Milkwell Burn.
WESTGARTH: Co Durham; Bishop Auckland


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Re: Help Decipher 1831 Will Warwickshire
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 December 14 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Ambly.

Thats a great help

This Tidmarsh line of my family is full of intrigue.

My great granddad Samuel Tidmarsh b 1844 Balsall, Warwick, on 1861c in Ballsall as plough boy, by married Mary Cutts 1867 (of Bolsover Derbyshire) in Waleswood Nr Rotherham Yorkshire died 1920 in Clowne Derbyshire

Samuel's elder brother and a married sister had moved to Bolsover Derbyshire by 1850c from Balsall

Their father was Thomas Tidmarsh

Their dad was Thomas Tidmarsh jr (Bapt Tidmash) b 1805 Atherton (Nr Tamworth) son of Thomas Tidmash and Poebe Cope who married 1803 in Atherton, by 1841c both Thomas sr and wife Pheobe and son Thomas jr with his wife Sarah both lived in Balsall St Balsall in separate houses on the street.

The Thomas and Phoebe who married 1803. Thomas died 1850 age 86 and Phoebe died 1852 aged 74  in Balsall

Hence the question -who was the Thomas Tidmarsh in this Will 1831 died 1830 age 80 in Balsall

Mary Cutts  b 1846 parents were George Cutts  & Elizabeth Trickett who was born illegitimate as Elizabeth Lowe to Ann Lowe in Wingfield Derbyshire and brought up in Bolsover with a  Benjamin Trickett  who married Ann Lowe  who adopted her as his daughter.

Now we had a Housekeeper called Mary Lowe in this 1830 WILL in Balsall in Warwickshire


George Cutts was sent to prison 2 years for helping his brother murder a game keeper, his brother was sent to Australia for life circa 1849 Bolsover

in the 1850's George was in court for murdering a fancy woman or prostitute, he was found not guilty for lack of evidence, he went on to kill another 2 women and a gamekeeper before they realised and he topped / hung himself in the end before they nabbed him. :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Ho! the shame of it  :'(

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Re: Help Decipher 1831 Will Warwickshire
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 December 14 14:16 GMT (UK) »
I read the name as Cranmore :D

I was thinking on similar lines - compare capital C in County, Cottages etc with G in Gardens at the end of the 4th line (5th including large top line). I'd wondered about Cranmers, though...

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Re: Help Decipher 1831 Will Warwickshire
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 27 December 14 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everybody

I'll post part 2 of the Will/probate tomorrow as I'm stuff full of turkey leftovers at the moment  :D

Best to all
 Dobby  :)

PS Ho ! I  --- and mince pies  :-X

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Re: Help Decipher 1831 Will Warwickshire
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 December 14 23:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi .... A Yeoman (after the county of Warwick in Warwickshire) is a sort of constable,  a keeper of the peace, someone who walked around watching out for nabbers (thieves)  !!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 December 14 14:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi .... A Yeoman (after the county of Warwick in Warwickshire) is a sort of constable,  a keeper of the peace, someone who walked around watching out for nabbers (thieves)  !!!!!!!!!!

Really??? I'd always thought it was a farmer with a status a bit lower than a gentleman. Can you provide any sources for this alternative meaning, please?

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Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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