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Offline Emmajo2014

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Advice required for birth certificate
« on: Tuesday 13 May 14 13:24 BST (UK) »
Hi there.

I am desperately trying to find the birth certificate for my great grandmother Martha Burford. She was born 10.09.1887.  I have her wedding certificate to my grandfather and her fathers name was George. I have also found her in the census with her siblings. Unfortunately as much as I've tried I am struggling to find a birth certificate or baptism record. Her daughter (who has since passed away) claims she was born in Worcestershire, this may have been Trimpley / Kidderminster but I cannot find any record, nor can I find a record for her siblings.

Any advice? Am I overlooking something major?

1891.
Name: Martha Burford
Age: 3 
Estimated birth year: abt 1888 
Relation: Daughter 
Father's name: George
Mother's name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Kidderminster, Worcestershire,
Civil parish: Kidderminster 
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Baptist 
Town: Kidderminster 
 abode: woodfield street 5
1901 Census Information:
In 1901 Martha Burford was aged approx 13 living in Kidderminster and it says she was also born in Kidderminster.
1911
DRAPER, MARTHA WIFE MARRIED  F 24  TRIMPLEY WORCESTERSHIRE
Address 9 BAPTIST CHAPEL YARD





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Re: Advice required for birth certificate
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 May 14 13:35 BST (UK) »
Hi

Was she the oldest child?  When did parents marry?

If the dates are tight maybe she was born before the marriage and is registered under mothers maiden name.
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Re: Advice required for birth certificate
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 May 14 14:03 BST (UK) »
1891 census: Class: RG12; Piece: 2316; Folio: 15; Page: 23
5 Woodfield Street, Kidderminster

Burford, George  Head  M  50  Farm Labourer  b Worcester
Burford, Ann  Wife  F  40  b Neen Sellars, Shropshire
Burford, William  Son  M  19    Labourer  b Kidderminster
Burford, John  Son  M  12  b Stourbridge
Burford, Harry  Son  M  9  b Stourbridge
Burford, Rose  Daughter  F  6  b Kidderminster
Burford, Martha  Daughter  F  3  b Kidderminster
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Advice required for birth certificate
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 May 14 14:05 BST (UK) »
Mother Ann (50) was a widow in 1901, children aged John 21 born in Birmingham, Jane 16, Martha 13 and Edith 7 (all born in Kidderminster).

On a quick look I can't see any of the Kidderminster births registered (as Burford anyway), though there is a John Thomas Burford born Birmingham in June quarter 1879.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....


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Re: Advice required for birth certificate
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 May 14 14:48 BST (UK) »
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On a quick look I can't see any of the Kidderminster births registered (as Burford anyway), though there is a John Thomas Burford born Birmingham in June quarter 1879.

Could this be Rose?


ROSA  BURFORD
1884 Dec quarter
Bromsgrove Worcestershire
Volume   6C  Page   399
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Re: Advice required for birth certificate
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 May 14 15:27 BST (UK) »
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On a quick look I can't see any of the Kidderminster births registered (as Burford anyway), though there is a John Thomas Burford born Birmingham in June quarter 1879.

Could this be Rose?


ROSA  BURFORD
1884 Dec quarter
Bromsgrove Worcestershire
Volume   6C  Page   399

I'd only looked for the children listed in 1901 - reply number 3 - but actually apart from Martha this looks like a different family  :-\
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Advice required for birth certificate
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 May 14 15:37 BST (UK) »
1891 census: Class: RG12; Piece: 2316; Folio: 15; Page: 23
5 Woodfield Street, Kidderminster

Burford, George  Head  M  50  Farm Labourer  b Worcester
Burford, Ann  Wife  F  40  b Neen Sellars, Shropshire
Burford, William  Son  M  19    Labourer  b Kidderminster
Burford, John  Son  M  12  b Stourbridge
Burford, Harry  Son  M  9  b Stourbridge
Burford, Rose  Daughter  F  6  b Kidderminster
Burford, Martha  Daughter  F  3  b Kidderminster

1871 Chaddersley    (This should read 1881)
RG11/2897 f42 p9
George Burford age 51
Ann Jones   30 bn Neensolars, Shropshire,
Eliza Jones   11 bn Tenbury, Worcestershire,
William Jones   7 bn Stourbridge, Worcestershire
John Jones   2 bn Chaddesley, Worcestershire
Mary Jones    bn Chaddesley
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Re: Advice required for birth certificate
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 May 14 15:40 BST (UK) »
Re the "Jones" link found by rosie99, an Edith Jones birth reg shows in Kidderminster Jun qtr 1893 (consistent with age 7 in 1901 census).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Advice required for birth certificate
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 May 14 15:41 BST (UK) »
Aha! Maybe?

Births, December qtr 1887
Kidderminster district    vol 6c, page 209

Jones, Martha
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)