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Re: What does 'owre' in an Irish gaelic patronomic name mean?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 26 August 14 20:34 BST (UK) »
I think this means brown/dun coloured, "Odhar", pro' owar. Ruadh/Ban = red haired/fair haired.
The Brahan Seer was known in Gaelic as Coinneach Odhar = Brown Kenneth Mackenzie.

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Re: What does 'owre' in an Irish gaelic patronomic name mean?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 26 August 14 20:44 BST (UK) »
I think this means brown/dun coloured, "Odhar", pro' owar. Ruadh/Ban = red haired/fair haired.

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Finally something that makes some sense.

so like Red Hugh O'Donnell

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Re: What does 'owre' in an Irish gaelic patronomic name mean?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 26 August 14 20:48 BST (UK) »
Here he is,    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahan_Seer

Slainte,

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Re: What does 'owre' in an Irish gaelic patronomic name mean?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 27 August 14 11:58 BST (UK) »
The term 'owre'or 'ouer'  appears in four seperate fiants in the 1580s in Laois, Ireland, in the Calendar of Papers Relating to Ireland.  What frustrates me is that there is also a reference in a will to Donnell Oge O'Lalor in 1579, but 'oge' also appears in other names in the same fiants. I have found the term repeated in other names in the fianst from the late 16the century in Laois.
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Re: What does 'owre' in an Irish gaelic patronomic name mean?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 27 August 14 14:02 BST (UK) »
"Bunachar Téarmaíochta IATE (AE)/IATE Terminology Database (EU)" (IATE):

grandchild =  banua;  or  ua

grandson = ua

ua could be ower  to a non Gaelic person's ear.
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Re: What does 'owre' in an Irish gaelic patronomic name mean?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 27 August 14 15:17 BST (UK) »
Oge means young. Og/Oige in Scots Gaelic.

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