Charles Mc Aulay/Bridget Brice

[MonicaL]

That is really odd about their marriage entry for sure. Never seen one so blank...and I have seen too many  Almost like amnesia there by the bride and groom!

Monica

Added: the death cert for Cornelius, still no mention of his parents' names from what you have found 

[Cheskauk2013]

  Oops, :-[Yes,sorry I tried to add everything in order and missed something  .

Yes, Cornelius named his parents as Patrick Kilday and Catherine Kilday M.S Brushland/Brieshland?. It's hard to make out. I have already found this a while ago and i was hoping to get a stronger link to them. I have a separate topic about the daughter Bridget (Biddy) and her family.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=661530.10

Much appreciated,

Francesca

[MonicaL]

Francesca, please don't fret with me  I have an almost like photographic like memory for numbers, names, dates and details...all great for genealogy!

Monica

[Cheskauk2013]

  definitely.

Francseca

[Cheskauk2013]

I can see possibly Cornelius by himself in 1861:

Cornelius Kilday, 40, agr. lab. b. Ireland boarding at the Tavin household in Campsie, Stirlingshire.

Monica

On his death cert it lists his occupation as labourer.

His parents are both deceased and his father Patrick Kilday occupation is written as Farmer.

Francesca 

[Cheskauk2013]

Hi,

I'm looking for a birth for Mary Mc Aulay/Auley and I am not having any luck. No doubt I am missing something but with the name of her husband Cornelius Kilday and her parents Charles Mc Auley/Aulay - Bridget Brice I haven't been able to find it. I have had a look in Scotland/Ireland but can't seem to find them. I have tried using both names. Any advice on what else I could look into is much appreciated.

 

[Cheskauk2013]

Hello,

I am looking for some help. I have been trying to find a birth record for a Mary Mc Aulay but unfortunately her marriage cert doesn't give her D.O.B it does however list the names of her parents Charles Mc Aulay and Bridget Brice. I have tried to find her birth in Scotland and Ireland but haven't had much luck using the dates around her husbands birth and death. She married in Scotland. Her husband Cornelius Kilday was born in 1821 and died in 1886 however I believe she may have lived after this due to another record I have found which lead me towards looking in Ireland.

Any insights on where to continue this search I would very much appreciate. I wasn't sure where to post it. I have a separate post about her parents and the family

 topics merged

 

[AMBLY]

Hi Francesca,

Having looked at the other, older topic - and found other items, I'm a bit confused so just checking.

You say Mary's husband Cornelius died 1886, and was born 1821... and I find this fellow:

DEATH: 1885, Campsie, Stirlingshire
Cornelius KILDAY, age 60 years (so born abt 1825)
Died 9 Jan 1885, @ 3h, 25M
At Chapel Street, Lennoxtown
Alum work labourer
Married to Ellen McAULAY
Father: Edward KILDAY, Farm Labourer, deceased
Mother: Isabella KILDAY, ms HANLON, deceased
Informant: James KILDAY, son, present

CENSUS 1881:  Main Street Kincaids Land, Lennoxtown, Stirlingshire
Head: Cornelius KILDAY 65, General Labourer, b Ireland (b abt 1816)
Wife: Helen KILDAY 60, b Ireland
Son: James KILDAY 17, b Lennoxtown

CENSUS 1861: Main Street, Biggars House, Campsie
Lodger: Edward KILDAY 64, Ag Lab, b Ireland
Lodger: Cornelius KILDAY 40, Ag Lab, b Ireland (b abt 1821)


Then there is THIS fellow death in 1866
DEATH 1866, Kirkintilloch, Dumbartonshire
Cornelius KILDAY  52 years (so born abt 1814)
Died 18 Nov 1866, @ 4h am
At East High Street, Kirkintilloch
Labourer
Married to Mary McAULAY
Father: Patrick KILDAY, Farmer, deceased
Mother: Catherine KILDAY, ms BRUSHLAND, deceased
Informant, Mary KILDAY, widow, present, her X Mark

Then there is this........ def. enumerated as Candia! Maybe supposed to be 'Condie/Condy, apparently a pet form of Cornelius'? The address  Cowgate, is the same where your Biddy KILDAY was born 1863:
CENSUS 1861: Cowgate, Kirkintilloch, Dumbartonshire
Head: Candia KILDAY 40, Ag Lab, b Ireland (b abt 1821)
Wife: Mary KILDAY 30, Ag Lab, b Ireland (b abt 1831)
Dau: Nancy KILDAY 15, Ag Lab, b Ireland (b abt 1846)
Boarder: Catherine KILDAY 35, Ag Lab, unm, b Ireland (b abt 1826)
(Note: Nancy can be a pet name for Agnes or Ann)

And this, which you mentioned on the other topic
PARISH REMOVAL ORDER 1869:
Return of all poor persons removed from Scotland to Ireland
From the 1st.Jan.1867 to the 31st. Dec. 1869.
County Parish: Kirkintilloch, Adult female, widow of Cornelius KILDAY
With 6 Children under age 16
Sent from the port of Greenock, to Donegal, Ireland.

Is this this removal order what you're referring to here:

I believe she may have lived after this due to another record I have found which lead me towards looking in Ireland.

And the 1859 marriage in Campsie, Stirlingshire of the parents of your Biddy KILDAY.
MARRIAGE, 16 Nov 1859: Roman Catholic Church, Lennoxtown, Campsie, Stirlingshire
GROOM: Cornelius KILDAY, his X Mark
No age, No residence, No occupation, No parents names listed.
BRIDE: Mary McAULAY, her X Mark
Witness her signature John GOLDIE, also the marriage witness
Witness her signature John GREEN, also the marriage witness
No age, No residence listed
Father: Charles McAULEY
Mother: Bridget BRICE

CHILDREN: of parents Cornelius KILDAY & Mary McAULAY:
Biddy KILDAY born 7 July 1863, Kirkintilloch [ https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY5T-SM2]
Mary KILDAY born 25 Dec 1866, Kirkintilloch [ https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY5R-G7Q]

BIRTH CERT 1863:
Biddy KILDAY b 7 July 1863, Cowgate, Kirkintilloch
Parents: Cornelius KILDAY and Mary KILDAY ms McAULAY, married about Nov 1859 Campsie
Informant: Cornelius KILDAY, father, his X mark. Not Present (at birth)

Cheers
AMBLY

[Cheskauk2013]

Hello AMBLY,

Thank you for taking the time to reply to my topic and pointing out my mistake. I also admit to being very confused however after reading through your reply I would have to say that I made a mistake with the D.O.B of Cornelius Kilday born 1814 for some reason I seem to have miscalculated his birth and wrote 1821 . I have all of this information but found the 1861 census for Candia Kilday very interesting. Yes, the removal order is what I was referring to. I have been researching Cornelius Kilday and Mary Mc Aulay:

Then there is THIS fellow death in 1866
DEATH 1866, Kirkintilloch, Dumbartonshire
Cornelius KILDAY  52 years (so born abt 1814)
Died 18 Nov 1866, @ 4h am
At East High Street, Kirkintilloch
Labourer
Married to Mary McAULAY
Father: Patrick KILDAY, Farmer, deceased
Mother: Catherine KILDAY, ms BRUSHLAND, deceased
Informant, Mary KILDAY, widow, present, her X Mark

Then there is this........ def. enumerated as Candia! Maybe supposed to be 'Condie/Condy, apparently a pet form of Cornelius'? The address  Cowgate, is the same where your Biddy KILDAY was born 1863:
CENSUS 1861: Cowgate, Kirkintilloch, Dumbartonshire
Head: Candia KILDAY 40, Ag Lab, b Ireland (b abt 1821)
Wife: Mary KILDAY 30, Ag Lab, b Ireland (b abt 1831)
Dau: Nancy KILDAY 15, Ag Lab, b Ireland (b abt 1846)
Boarder: Catherine KILDAY 35, Ag Lab, unm, b Ireland (b abt 1826)
(Note: Nancy can be a pet name for Agnes or Ann)

And this, which you mentioned on the other topic
PARISH REMOVAL ORDER 1869:
Return of all poor persons removed from Scotland to Ireland
From the 1st.Jan.1867 to the 31st. Dec. 1869.
County Parish: Kirkintilloch, Adult female, widow of Cornelius KILDAY
With 6 Children under age 16
Sent from the port of Greenock, to Donegal, Ireland.

Is this this removal order what you're referring to here:

I believe she may have lived after this due to another record I have found which lead me towards looking in Ireland.

And the 1859 marriage in Campsie, Stirlingshire of the parents of your Biddy KILDAY.
MARRIAGE, 16 Nov 1859: Roman Catholic Church, Lennoxtown, Campsie, Stirlingshire
GROOM: Cornelius KILDAY, his X Mark
No age, No residence, No occupation, No parents names listed.
BRIDE: Mary McAULAY, her X Mark
Witness her signature John GOLDIE, also the marriage witness
Witness her signature John GREEN, also the marriage witness
No age, No residence listed
Father: Charles McAULEY
Mother: Bridget BRICE

CHILDREN: of parents Cornelius KILDAY & Mary McAULAY:
Biddy KILDAY born 7 July 1863, Kirkintilloch [ https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY5T-SM2]
Mary KILDAY born 25 Dec 1866, Kirkintilloch [ https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY5R-G7Q]

BIRTH CERT 1863:
Biddy KILDAY b 7 July 1863, Cowgate, Kirkintilloch
Parents: Cornelius KILDAY and Mary KILDAY ms McAULAY, married about Nov 1859 Campsie
Informant: Cornelius KILDAY, father, his X mark. Not Present (at birth)

Cheers
AMBLY
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Thanks again,