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Ebbs
« on: Monday 29 March 10 10:26 BST (UK) »
Hi

Seeking assistance with marriage and birth records of William Ebbs,please?
Married Caroline Watson nee Ebbs nee Mead.
Maybe married second husband Thomas Ebbs's brother William at 3rd chance of marriage.
Caroline b.29 Apr 1812 St Margarets Herts.ENG christened  Stanstead Abbots Hertford ENG.

William died 1850 Herts.ENG.
Also looking for their son William Mark Prewett Ebbs's birth date.
Prewett not sure where that came from? Maybe William's (father) mother's maiden name?

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Re: Ebbs
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 March 10 11:27 BST (UK) »
1841 Butcherly Green, hertfordshire
Thomas Ebbs 44
Caroline 25
Sarah 10
John 8
George 6
Louisa 4
Charity 1

is this her? pres with 2nd husband?
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DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Ebbs
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 March 10 11:32 BST (UK) »
1851
HO107 1711 418 24
Old Workhouse Yard, Hertford

Caroline Ebbs 39 Widow Charwoman bn St Margarets
John 18
George 16
Louisa 14
Charity 10
Thomas 7    all bn Hertford

...so I cant see any indication that she had another marriage to William Ebbs, or that she had a son WIlliam MArk Prewett Ebbs ...

where does this theory come from? There is really not a lot of time between 1841 and 1850 for Thomas to have died, her to marry a Watson, him to have died, her to marry WIlliam Ebbs and then him to have died ... possible I guess, but with no marriages found why is it thought this is the case? And where has WIlliam Mark Prewett Ebbs been seen?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Ebbs
« Reply #3 on: Monday 29 March 10 11:42 BST (UK) »
1861 is interesting

1861
RG9 824 35 9
Salisbury Court Hertford
Henry Mead 48 widwer labourer bn Hertford
George 23 son
Caroline Ebbs 49 widow housekeepr bn St Margarets
Thomas Ebbs 17 son
Charles Ebbs 9 son
Mary Ebbs 4 dtr

Caroline has managed to produce 2 more children - I wonder if she is more than a housekeeper to Mr Mead?

(you said her maiden name was Mead - are you sure?)
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Ebbs
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 March 10 11:47 BST (UK) »
Looks like they were Henrys ... at least Mary

1871
RG10 1373 9 14
Colemans Yard Hertford
Henry Mead 62 widower Gen labourer bn Hertford
Mary Mead 14 dtr bn Hertford
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DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Ebbs
« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 March 10 11:59 BST (UK) »
Hi
Thanks for the replies.
Thomas Ebbs was buried 22 Nov 1843 Hertfordshire ENG Aged 41
A baptism for William s/o William and Caroline is recorded as 23Sep1849 at Hertford St.John  and All Saints.
The Hertfordshire Burial Index records a William EBBS age 1+ on 08Jan1850 at Hertford All Saints.
 v6 p381

So next came William Mark Prewett Ebbs but cant find his birth date.

1st husband
In 1841 Henry and Sarah MEAD and their son George age 2.  Sarah died Dec qtr 1844 (Hertford Dist V.6 P.373). 

Caroline subsequently married Henry but Henry died Dec qtr 1870 age 61 (Hertford Dist V.3a P.216)
Caroline born 1812.having difficulty finding  William's birth records.He died 1850 Herts.So son William born before 1850.

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Re: Ebbs
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 March 10 12:07 BST (UK) »
1st husband
In 1841 Henry and Sarah MEAD and their son George age 2.  Sarah died Dec qtr 1844 (Hertford Dist V.6 P.373). 

Caroline subsequently married Henry but Henry died Dec qtr 1870 age 61 (Hertford Dist V.3a P.216)

Henry and son George are there in 1861, with Caroline Ebbs as housekeeper - no indication she has married him, and even if she does later, certainly not as her 'first' husband.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Ebbs
« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 March 10 12:08 BST (UK) »
So next came William Mark Prewett Ebbs but cant find his birth date.

'came' from where? Where have you found him?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Ebbs
« Reply #8 on: Monday 29 March 10 12:17 BST (UK) »
Looks like Caroline and Henry might have married in 1861 just after census

Marriage
Ap/May/Jun 1861
Ware 3a 188b


caroline Ebbs / one of grooms on page Henr Mead

but then she dies

Oct/Nov/Dec 1870
Hertford
Caroline Mead age 61


leaving Henry a widower with the child Mary on 1871 as I found.

I really question a) that she was nee Mead, b) that she ever married a William c) where Watson comes in (unless that was her maiden name before she married Thomas Ebbs) d) that William Mark whatsit was anything to do with her
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk