Lilley family - Carrickfergus/Co Antrim/Belfast

[Puddleduck03]

Hello,
Was looking help on finding information regarding my Gt Grandmother and siblings/parents. 
Mary Elizabeth (Doherty) nee Lilley, her sister Harriet Lilley and brothers George Wilmont and Joseph Lilley.  Their parents were Harriet & Joseph Lilley (nee Fraser).

ME Doherty died 1937
Harriet birth 1872 died Nov 1959
George Wilmot birth 1869 unsure of death
Joseph birth 1865 - died 1905

Their parents were Joseph dod 1907 and Harriet 1832-1904

Any information of any kind would  be very much appreciated.
Puddleduck

[aghadowey]

What sort of information are you looking for? have you found census records? wills? valuation records & directories? vital records?

If you let us know wht you'd like help with it will give us a starting point rather than spend time searching for details that you already know.

[Puddleduck03]

Hi aghadowey

Not too used to these forums so please forgive me for being a bit slow!!
I have "Emerald Ancestors" search for J Lilley, George & Harriet (birth entries) and a British Army Service record copy for the father and copy will.  Also have Harriet Fraser Lilley's copy will.

My main aim is to find the grave of the Lilley family.  I believe they are together in Carnmoney Burial Ground, however the first burial was Joseph Lilley in 1904/5.  Have been to Carnmoney a number  of times but cannot find any headstone as far back as that.  Also, only recently we have found the records of George Wilmont Lilley; we have no info on him other than birth 23.7.1869.  We didn't even know he existed so anything on him, would be great.

Hope to hear from you.
Puddleduck

[Sinann]

Mary Elizabeth and family in 1911 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Clifton__Belfast_Urban_No__2/Indiana_Avenue/134448/

[Sinann]

Joseph and Harriette and family 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/New_Lepper_Street/936873/

Be sure to view the census images just below the transcribed return to see the original and find more bits of info like the type of house.

[Puddleduck03]

Hi Sinann

Many thanks for that; I did have the census details.  Any info welcome.

[aghadowey]

Joseph & Harriet had at least 5 children (1st Joseph probably died young- I'm still searching and checking details).

Joseph Lilley (c1823/c1817 Co.Down-30 Jan.1907) m.(1862 Birmingham, England) Harriet Frazer (c1832 England-21 May 1904)
Marriage: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5VK-7WH
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/New_Lepper_Street/936873
  "Probate of the Will of Harriett Lilley late of Victoria-terrace Albert-road Carrickfergus County Antrim Married Woman who died 21 May 1904 granted at Belfast to Joseph William Lilley Railway Official and Harriett Lilley Spinster." Will dated 1 May 1904 (shortly before her death) mentions property in England, children Joseph William, Harriett & Mary Elizabeth but not husband or son George.
  "Probate of the Will of Joseph Lilley late of 23 Indiana-avenue Belfast Army Pensioner who died 30 January 1907 granted at Belfast to Harriett Lilley Spinster." Will dated 1895, codicil 1903.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Clifton__Belfast_Urban_No__2/Indiana_Avenue/134448

1.   Mary Elizabeth Lilley (c1865/prob.before 1864-24 July 1937) m.(c1894) ___ Doherty
        "Doherty Mary Elizabeth of 23 Indiana Avenue Belfast widow died 24 July 1937 Probate Belfast 21 February to Fraser Doherty traveller and Miller Doherty gentleman. Effects £1825 14s."
        1.   Frazer Doherty (c1895 Belfast-aft.1959)
             ? "Doherty, Joseph William Fraser of 27 Gilnahirk Road Belfast retired commercial representative died 24 October 1968 at Belfast City Hospital Probate Belfast 18 November to Thomas Dick Tomlinson accountant. Effects £354."
        2.   John Miller Doherty (c1898 England-aft.1959)

2.   Joseph Henery Lilley (27 May 1865 Belfast)
        Birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5X3-9NG

3.   Joseph William Lilley (28 Feb.1867 Belfast-25 Sept.1905 Sierra Leone)
        Birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F55K-XZ2
        "Administration of the estate of Joseph William Lilley late of 23 Indiana-avenue Belfast Assistant Manager who died 25 September 1905 at Sierra Leone West Africa granted at Belfast to Harriet Lilley Spinster. Effects £62 13s. 9d"

4.   George Wilmot Lilley (23 July 1869 Belfast). 1901- painter
        Birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5MZ-T3D
        Marriage? (1908 U.S.) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XJXT-D7P

5.   Harriet Lilley (1 Mar.1872 Belfast-1959?) 1901- teacher
        Birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5WN-MGC
        "Lilley Harriett of 23 Indiana Avenue Belfast spinster died 1 November 1959 at 118 Antrim Road Belfast Probate Belfast 4 December to Fraser Doherty oil representative and Miller Doherty clerk. Effects £9061 10s. 10d"

[Puddleduck03]

aghadowey

I am delighted to see all that info.  Really interested in the USA link with George.  Can you advise me how I go about researching more about him, children/year of death etc.   Thank you sooo much for this. 

Puddleduck

[aghadowey]

Here's a start on George Wilmot Lilley & his family. Note surname often Lillie and year of birth varies in just about every record!

George Wilmot Lilley (d.1949 or 1945?) m.(1908 Iowa) Helen Irwin (d.1960)
     1910 Census- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MGMN-CLH
     1920 Census- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M81V-MZS
     WWI draft registration card (year of birth 1878!) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KZ27-M5F
     1930 Census- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XMJB-4RP
     1940 Census- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KMY2-715
     Grave (George d.1949): http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/GEORGEWLILLIE/8718217
     Grave (George d.1945):  http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=107204395
     Grave (Helen): http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/HelenLillie/8637691
1.   Gladys E. Lillie (1911-2003)
        death: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V9KX-FZK
        obituary (lots of family detail): http://www.obitsforlife.com/obituary/233528/Lillie-Gladys.php
        grave: http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/person/8133992
2.   Winifred M. Lillie (1914)
        Birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V46Z-1TV
        obituary (lots of family detail): http://www.obitsforlife.com/obituary/233060/Dallas-Winifred.php
        Grave: http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/WinifredLDallas/8100487
3.   George Wilmot Lillie (1923-2006)
        Birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V468-1G3
        obituary (lots of family detail): http://www.obitsforlife.com/obituary/233761/Lillie-George.php