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Re: Violet May Carson
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 15 June 14 11:20 BST (UK) »
This thread is on the Common Room .... I wonder if you would get the attention of some of the Scottish experts if it was moved to the Scotland board?

David, if you would like I can ask a moderator to move it for you?

You almost need a thread in both Ireland and Scotland. Pehaps start with Scotland as Violet was last seen in there. See how you get on, and perhaps move over to Ireland later?

Just one thing, if you do decide to start a completely new thread searching for Violet, provide a link to this one to prevent duplication of effort.

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Re: Violet May Carson
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 15 June 14 11:37 BST (UK) »
That would be a great help Ruskie.

David
Stevenson - Neilston, Paisley, Glasgow
Hillcoat - Paisley
Grant - Kinlochluichart, Kingussie
Paton - Lothian, Ayrshire
McCulloch Paisley, Glasgow
Watson - Ayrshire, Yorkshire, Glasgow
Ross - Forres
Regan - Monmouthshire
Carson - Belfast
Rankin - Glasgow and Paisley

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Re: Violet May Carson
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 15 June 14 11:58 BST (UK) »
David, I have requested that this thread be moved to Scotland.  :)

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Re: Violet May Carson
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 15 June 14 12:24 BST (UK) »
Cranmore Park was in Windsor Ward electoral division. Interestingly, whilst neither the 1901 or 1911 census have any sign of a Carson family at Cranmore Park, the 1901 has a Samuel Carson, Flesher at Shaftsbury Square and a William Carson, Flesher, with sons Thomas Carson and James Carson, both Fleshers, at Albion Place (see  http://www.rootschat.com/links/014n3/  ). Shaftsbury Square and Albion Place were also in Windsor Ward electoral division. No obvious Violet Mary Carson with either family though.

Even more interestingly, PRONI have the will indexed in 1943, of a Thomas Carson, Flesher, of 1 Cranmore Park, who died on 17th January 1942 and left Effects £17425 16s 8d. His wife was noted as a Mary Carson. The same Thomas Carson was also administrator of the will of a spinster, Miss Annie Ellen Carson, who died in 1935 and left £7998 16s. 10d. Administration later changed to a Miss Esther Jane Bingham.

Thomas can be seen listed on this transcript of a 1918 street directory:

http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1918c.htm
Carson, Thos., Knocknarea, Cranmore Park

Thomas's burial record is indexed on the Belfast Cemeteries  website and lists him as 67 at time of death. A Martha Carson, aged 13, was also buried in same plot some years earlier, in 1930.  The cemetery listed is Belfast City Cemetery.

Given Thomas' age at death, I would say he was quite probably the one listed in the 1901 census at Albion Place. And, by way of confirmation and in keeping with the info from the Wills index, here he is in 1911 at Lisburn Road  http://www.rootschat.com/links/014n7/  .

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Re: Violet May Carson
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 15 June 14 12:38 BST (UK) »
Looking on Scotland's People, there are some Violet Carson marriages after 1931.....  :-\ (and some deaths)

Interesting finds Scotmum.

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Re: Violet May Carson
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 15 June 14 12:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Ruskie.
Hi Scotmum that's quite interesting, even though the birth cert shows 1 Cranmore Park, Google maps shows residence to the left as 33, I know it's not the most accurate info, I did think it might possibly have been 31, but your info shows a Carson at no. 1.

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Stevenson - Neilston, Paisley, Glasgow
Hillcoat - Paisley
Grant - Kinlochluichart, Kingussie
Paton - Lothian, Ayrshire
McCulloch Paisley, Glasgow
Watson - Ayrshire, Yorkshire, Glasgow
Ross - Forres
Regan - Monmouthshire
Carson - Belfast
Rankin - Glasgow and Paisley

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Re: Violet May Carson
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 15 June 14 13:07 BST (UK) »
Street numbering may have changed over the years. If we could find out the name of Violet's father I'm sure that will help.

It's evident that the Carson men followed the trade of 'flesher' - we just need some evidence to pinpoint which man is Violet's father.

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Re: Violet May Carson
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 15 June 14 13:15 BST (UK) »
Sight of the certificate for the Violet Carson born 1908 in Belfast, can be purchased at reasonable cost at:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

nb just use forename, not middle name, for search
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Re: Violet May Carson
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 15 June 14 13:16 BST (UK) »
- we just need some evidence to pinpoint which man is Violet's father.

Or, which Carson daughter was the mother.
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