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Re: Withers family
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 June 14 09:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cas,
This would explain why Elizabeth and Minnie seemed some what distant to the rest of the family.
Harriet's death cert. shows her parents as John Russell and Ann Amos. Are you familiar with this family.
We understand that William's wife was Laura Prewett and possibly a sister to Robert snr's second wife Mary Ann Prewett.
Also I have a Mary Ann (who died at 9 months) between George and Robert jnr. Are you able to confirm if this is correct.
The information so far is great.
 

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Re: Withers family
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 June 14 11:58 BST (UK) »
It does not mean that Elizabeth and Minnie were not Roberts dau, just that they were born out of wedlock so took their mothers name. You would have to get the birth certs to see if Robert is named as father.  Possibly there maybe no info of father, but he still may well be, or maybe not.

This is the only 'Mary' birth I can find in the timeframe/area.  Cannot find a death. Possibly she was recorded in a stillbirth register, and not registered? But you say she is 9mths at death.  Have not looked outside area, as most of this family were reg in the Thornbury District which covered Olveston.  This is the link to BMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Don't think she belongs with your family.

Births Dec 1847   
WITHERS    Mary Susanna     Thornbury 11   421

I do not have any connection to your family.  Just like to help, most are keen genealogists and puzzle solvers here, we try to help when can.  :) It is a great FH forum, hope you enjoy.

Poss bapt for Harriets father which would tie with census https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J3MQ-J8J

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NFRV-V2V John - Ann marriage

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JS9G-G5Y Harriet bapt

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Withers family
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 05 June 14 12:15 BST (UK) »
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NFYY-N29 William - Laura marriage.

I do not think Laura and second wife of Robert snr were sisters as Mary was a widow/housekeeper for Robert in 1861. Possibly her mother, as both families would be in contact prior and after marriage.  Will see what I can find if any.

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poss Deaths Mar 1848   
Prewitt Charles  Thornbury    11   447

1851 - HO107/Piece 1957/Folio 101/Page 7
Olveston

Mary Ann Prewett age 34, widow, is with Laura age 11 and 2 other dau, age 9 & 7 in household of her parents George and Ann Jenkins. So Laura was Mary Ann daughter.

I have not posted the census on Harrietts family as you seem to have the info, if you wish can post.
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Withers family
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 05 June 14 13:54 BST (UK) »
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Deaths Mar 1848   
Prewitt Charles  Thornbury    11   447

I think this may be the Charles Prewett who died in Berkeley at the age of 5 months.

ww.scribes-alcove.co.uk/view_entry_bur.php?id=2346&surname=prewett&firstname=charles&parish=all&type=bur


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Re: Withers family
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 05 June 14 14:07 BST (UK) »
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Deaths Mar 1848   
Prewitt Charles  Thornbury    11   447

I think this may be the Charles Prewett who died in Berkeley at the age of 5 months.

ww.scribes-alcove.co.uk/view_entry_bur.php?id=2346&surname=prewett&firstname=charles&parish=all&type=bur

Just had a quick look in area, he may have died elsewhere.

It is not really important as cert will not be sought, when Charles died.. Info was Mary A Prewett was a widow, and Charles was Laura father. Question was were they sisters, they were mother and dau.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NFJT-LN5 Charles - Mary Ann  marriage

The only importance of when he died would be to those of this Prewett family researching their ancestry. It is not a direct line/bloodline to poster/gary54

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Withers family
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 05 June 14 22:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this information.
It has gone a long way towards linking the scraps of info passed down by my mothers family over generations.
Very much appreciated.

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Re: Withers family
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 05 June 14 23:02 BST (UK) »
Glad to help, when and where can  :)

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Withers family
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 11 June 14 23:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Cas,
Can I request your assistance on other family members of a different surname without raising a new topic. If so, I'm trying to confirm the family of my great grandmother, Annie Louisa Face, b:9/8/1863. We have her parents as Charles Face b:1837, Stroud, Gloucestershire and Elizabeth Hopkins b:1838, Stanley or Kings Stanley, Gloucestershire.
My great grandparents immigrated to Queensland in 1886 and believe they may have been accompanied by Elizabeth then aged 48 and a daughter Florence aged 10. Charles Face may have died and we are unsure if there were other children in the Face family.

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Re: Withers family
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 12 June 14 09:15 BST (UK) »
Looks like the family were Non Conformist - http://www.thefreedictionary.com/nonconformist

poss bapt. Charles - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J3CT-P4J

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F7W7-HV3

Marriages Jun Qtr 1858   
Face    Charles   Stroud 6a   455  (checked original looks like 6a 453)
No other listed on page, number poss mis transcribed for Elizabeth, though I cannot find spouse namesake in quarter ref.

Birth ref Annie - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/2612-1TX

1871 census - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5YB-DQS

1881  census - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3TV-NVG

Deaths Mar Qtr 1886   
Face    Charles,  age 49  Solihull 6d 374  - This covers the Yardley area (Warwickshire) where they were in 1871/1881.

Who did Annie marry?

Marriages Dec Qtr 1886
Backhouse    Simpson Joseph Solihull    6d   891    
BENNETT    George         Solihull    6d   891    
FACE    Annie Louisa         Solihull    6d   891   

What in particular do you want to know? Will try help if can.

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland