Hi Brian,
Still no further ahead. I spent several wonderful hours recently at our provincial records office and found Isabel's marrage registration. She gives her name as Isabel Beatrix Collier, daughter of John and Cathrine Collier. We know this cannot be true, as John died in 1881, and she was born in 1883 (affirmed by her age on the marriage reg). I also found another sister I had been trying to find in Yorkshire with no luck --- there she was in Canada also!
I recently saw John Collier's death certificate and he died of T.B., which he had had for 2 years. I still cannot find Beatrix on the 1891 census under any name. I have tried workhouses in the area - nada!
I suspect Beatrix must be Miss Yewdall. I keep hoping to make contact with other family members, either the Joyce family that she married into, or the Robinson family who her sister Elizabeth married into, but no joy.
Someone told me that it was possible to see information on birth certs before one orders them, but it requires a physical visit to the office where the records are held. It's a pity that a jpg copy cannot just be ordered online. You used to able to do that here, but no more.
Eventually, I guess I will just break down and send them the money and take a chance .. I just keep hoping that the freebmd records will show me something good. I know that they are still not complete as I still have some people whose marrriages list only one of the pair.
Ah well....
Have a nice day!
Rupie