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Who were his parents?
« on: Monday 21 May 07 19:07 BST (UK) »
Still on the trail of the GOVIER family.  Have identified Philip GOVIER born June Q 1923 Swansea, mother's maiden name MEAGHER.  Can anyone help me to find a marriage between GOVIER and MEAGHER in the Swansea area that would fit with Philip's birth in 1923?  I need a better pair of eyes - mind just aren't finding it!  With thanks.

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Re: Who were his parents?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 May 07 20:30 BST (UK) »
Hi,Do you have any first names to go on?
Davies-Rhydlewis to Ebbw Vale
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Re: Who were his parents?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 May 07 20:48 BST (UK) »
Philip gave his father's name as Jack on his marriage lines.  Any help?

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Re: Who were his parents?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 10:56 BST (UK) »
Do you have the birth certificate? Could it be that Philip's mother had been married previously, so the marriage would not show up as Govier-Meagher?

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
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Re: Who were his parents?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 11:14 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your interest Osprey.  No, don't have birth certificate, only marriage certificate to Iris Fox in 1943 Chalfont St. Peter Bucks. 

Philip gives his age as 21 and his father as Jack Govier.  Philip Govier born in Swansea 1923 seems to be the only one that fits with his age at marriage.



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Re: Who were his parents?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 11:21 BST (UK) »
Don't know if this is any thing to do with it but my uncle Jack was christened John so I looked for a John GOVIER marriage and found
Govier John H J    BUTT Swansea 11 a 2016 Dec qtr 1913 It gives either Emmie BUTT or Mary E Butt as the bride
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Re: Who were his parents?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 11:22 BST (UK) »
was that Taunton Cert a dead-end then LC ?  :(

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Re: Who were his parents?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 11:36 BST (UK) »
Hey Newfy, happy Tuesday!
Yes, the Taunton birth was a no-go.  I asked them to check for middle name Joseph - which is the name on the marriage certificate - and it wasn't on the one in Taunton.  Am I right to dismiss it?
The Swansea one seems to fit more closely with age.

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 11:39 BST (UK) »
Assuming that you have searched birth indexes for Philip in 1922  and not found him,I would send for birth cert and see what that throws up.I have found a Jack Norman Govier born Swansea Sept qtr 1894 living at 104 Neath Road Swansea in 1901 son of William and Catherine.Also found sisters Ellen b 1890 and Mary 1900(Meagher) born Liverpool but living in Swansea in High St on the 1901.
Davies-Rhydlewis to Ebbw Vale
Wharton and Ford-Barnard Castle to London
Delany-Staffs.
Lascelles