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Re: John WISEMAN of Urswick (b1764/5)
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 13 July 13 16:53 BST (UK) »
There is a interesting marriage in Urswick

Thomas Wiseman,husbandman and Jane Wilkinson,spinster
both of Stenton,,(Stainton)
10th September 1750
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: John WISEMAN of Urswick (b1764/5)
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 13 July 13 16:56 BST (UK) »
Right I have to go to work so I will leave you with these two as possible family connections to research

Urswick
John Picthall of Aldingham husbandman
and Mary Wiseman spinster
witnessed by William Picthall and Ann Wiseman
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: John WISEMAN of Urswick (b1764/5)
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 13 July 13 22:02 BST (UK) »
Not any thing to do with your immediate post,
but  this appears in Australia
The Melbourne Argus newspaper,
3rd November 1854
Mr John Wiseman of Little Urswick
Miss Elizabeth Pickthall of Much Urswick near Ulverstone,
married by Rev Barton,of St Peters
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: John WISEMAN of Urswick (b1764/5)
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 14 July 13 13:40 BST (UK) »
A couple of miles away from Urswick
StMary Dalton In Furness
13th July 1760
Mary Wiseman,
daughter of John
abode Dalton

I haven't been able to track this one down. May i ask where you come across it? It kind of fits in with some new information I have been following thanks to some info you have mentioned previous.

I have branched out a little further and found-
Sarah and Deborah (twins?) 1758- dau of John wiseman
Isabella- dau of john wiseman 1760
Anne- dau of John wiseman 1770
All of Dalton in Furness. No mother listed.

And also found-
Isaac and John (twins?) s. of john wiseman 1762 from Colton. Again no mother listed.

Any ideas on how to try and track down a mother, and how to confirm which John? What/where are the best places to search.

All ideas/ recommendations are greatly appreciated.
Thanks again.


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Re: John WISEMAN of Urswick (b1764/5)
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 14 July 13 16:06 BST (UK) »
Lancashire parish records,

Click on Dalton in Furness,

click on baptisms under W and you will see all the Wiseman baptisms for our town,

Now the distance between,Dalton , Stainton and Urswick is nothing,I would do this walk on a Summers evening as a child,today I am a bit lazier and would go in the car,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: John WISEMAN of Urswick (b1764/5)
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 July 13 16:20 BST (UK) »
Deborah Wiseman
daughter of John Wiseman,
burial Urswick
26th June 1786

family search org,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: John WISEMAN of Urswick (b1764/5)
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 17 July 13 11:29 BST (UK) »
thank you for your help Radcliff. It is hard to really get a grasp on how close all these parishes are. I am extending out my search area a bit further, though i'm thinking it is confusing me all the more.
I had a look on google maps at Urswick area, and it is truly lovely and historical looking. Being here in Aus, we just don't have those lovely old buildings ( not where we live anyway). If you ever do go to have a look at the cemetery for john wiseman, I would be immensely grateful.

However the search continues....

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Re: John WISEMAN of Urswick (b1764/5)
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 17 July 13 22:12 BST (UK) »
Taken from the parish registers of Urswick

Buried,20th June 1772
Jane Harding,wife of John Harding of this parish esq
Eldest daughter of Roger Wiseman,of Caen in Com,Midx England
died 5th June buried 20th June
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Re: John WISEMAN of Urswick (b1764/5)
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 18 July 13 01:21 BST (UK) »
This may be a silly question, but I googled it and cant find the answer. What does the (X) mean in the record shown below?

Marriage: 10 Nov 1827 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England
 Edward Wiseman - (X) , Bachelor, Parkhouse
 Mary Winder - Spinster, Parkhouse
     Witness: John Boulton; John Stable
     Married by Banns by: J T Kirkbank, M.A. Vicar
     Register: Marriages 1813 - 1837 from Bishop's Transcripts, Page 32, Entry 94
     Source: LDS Film 1040304

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