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Look up request in the Parish Records for Seend & Seend Cleeve
« on: Saturday 15 November 14 15:29 GMT (UK) »
I have the birth certificate for Ellen Nash born 9 Oct 1864, The Cleeve Seend
Her mother was Mary Nash of Seend; father's  name not entered.
The marriage certificate with Ellen's marriage to William Charles Pow 28 December 1891 has her age as 22 years and her father's Name as William Nash.
Death certificate for Ellen Pow 22 July has her age as 72 years which makes her birth year as 1864.

I am seeking Mary Nash's birth as I have not found a possible one to date.

I have a notice with a baptism for a Mary Nash baptised in Seend 4 August 1839. - not sure where I became that information. :-\
Mary's parents being William Nash born 1796 in Seend and Harriet Newman born 1804 in Wootton Bassett.

Would these baptisms have been at the Methodist Chapel which later became a house?

Any help in finding the baptisms for any of the Nash Family would be welcome. :D

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Re: Look up request in the Parish Records for Seend & Seend Cleeve
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 November 14 00:18 GMT (UK) »
How many other Mary Nash baptisms in Seend have you found?From census what is her place and date of birth?Have you checked familysearch.org?Or Wiltshire OPC?
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Re: Look up request in the Parish Records for Seend & Seend Cleeve
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 November 14 09:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I see that Ellen seems to have lived with her grandparents in Seend  until at least 1881, when William had died. Thus, I would hazard a guess that she gave William as her father at her marriage because she either thought he was or she used his name to avoid embarrassment.

The only time that I can see Mary clearly is on the 1851*, when she was 12 so born 1838-9 ish

Seend Cleave HO107/1840/201/18
William Nash, 54, ag labourer, b. Seend
Harriet, 47, b. Wootton Basset
George, , 28, ag lab,  b. do
Thomas, 24, do, Seend
John, 18, do, do
Mary, 12, -, do
Elizabeth, 2, -, do

I've not found a baptism for her as yet.


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*Added - she's also on the 1841, aged 1!
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Re: Look up request in the Parish Records for Seend & Seend Cleeve
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 November 14 09:35 GMT (UK) »
Best that I can find on FreeBMD for Mary is Sept q, 1838, Devizes, 8, 297

Nothing in Melksham RD but Seend was half way between the two.

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Re: Look up request in the Parish Records for Seend & Seend Cleeve
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 16 November 14 09:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for looking for more information. :D

I have found these censuses, Mary was not living with her father. :-\

1871

RG10/1918 F50 p20 - Sand Stocks Seend

William Nash  Head M 75                     b Seend
Elizabeth "      Wife  M 67                    b Wootton Bassett
Elizabeth  "     da u   U 23                     b Seend
Ellen         "     g dau  6                                    "

1861 Census RG9/1294 F174 p12

Mary Nash is a house maid in Cleave House . Head Wadham Lacke Magistrate

Next door in Cleave Cottage

William Naish Head M 63 Labourer   b Seend
Harriet    "       Wife M 53                  b Wooten Bassett
Elizabeth  "      dau     13                  b Seend


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Re: Look up request in the Parish Records for Seend & Seend Cleeve
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 November 14 10:00 GMT (UK) »
 I'm still not 100% sure that the 1838 one is Mary's birth reg, She may not have been registered as it wasn't a criminal offence until mid-1870s.  Nothing so far in baptisms - C of E or non-c - but the records may not all be online. Do you know what religion they were?


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Re: Look up request in the Parish Records for Seend & Seend Cleeve
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 16 November 14 10:12 GMT (UK) »
I believe that their religion was Anglican, descendants are.

I had always thought that Ellen Nash's mother was Elizabeth until I bought the birth certificate earlier this year.

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 16 November 14 10:22 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Look up request in the Parish Records for Seend & Seend Cleeve
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 16 November 14 10:34 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for finding that source Gadget. :D

I had found the information about the Primitive Methodist Chapel in Cleeve on Wikipedia, the Chapel was in use by 1849.

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