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Knox family, Derry (city)
« on: Friday 26 October 07 20:37 BST (UK) »
Helping a friend trace his relatives. This branch lived first in Coleraine (until at least 1864) and then moved to Londonderry city by 1866.

Samuel "Sam" Knox (c1825-1894), plasterer, m.1 ?, m.2 (1874 Co.Derry) Charlotte Tallis (widow?).
A Samuel Knox m.1851 Co.Derry to Ellen Downes- if this is Sam's 1st marriage then there's a Samuel D. Knox m.1892 Agnes J. Fleming and a Samuel Downes Knox born 1895 which might be this family.
Have names of lots of children but not sure where they fit:
1. Madeline Ellen (c1854-22 Mar.1858).
2. Charles Samuel Hall (18 May 1859-Dec.1859).
3. son (1 Oct.1860).
4. William (c1862-1935).
5. Edward C. (28 Apr.1863-1923)- possibly Customs Officer at Letterkenny.
6. son (27 Sept.1864).
7. (George Walker) Perry (3 May 1866-1883).
8. (John Mason) Cairns (27 Dec.1869-1954).
9. Martha (c1870-1923).
10. Mathilde (c1874-6 Apr.1940).
11. Charlotte (c1876).
12. Maud (c1878-bef.1940).
13. Jasper William m.1896 Manhattan- possibly 4.William (c1862-1935).
?James (c1866).
?Clara
?John
?Sam- had son Sam & daughter Vera/Violet?

Also, Irish Genealogy index lists a Violet E. M. Knox born 1904- wonder if this is Sam's daughter Vera?

Would really appreaciate any help in sorting out all these children from the two marriages.

additional information just found: son born in 1869 is "Cairns"- apparently was a hermit and lived about Derry.
Samuel Knox m.1 22 Mar.1851 somewhere in Coleraine area to Ellen Downes/Elizabeth Ellen Lane Downes.


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Re: Knox family, Derry (city)
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 September 14 09:04 BST (UK) »
Still researching this family but since 2007 I've managed to find more information so here's an update (i HAVE EXACT DATES IN MOST CASES):

Samuel “Sam” Knox (c1825-1894), plasterer, m.1 (22 Mar.1851 Coleraine) Elizabeth Ellen Lane Downes (d.bef.1874); m.2 (1874 Derry) Charlotte Tallis (c1813 England-1903 Derry).
1.   Madeline Ellen Knox (c1854-1858 Coleraine).
2.   Charles Samuel Hall Knox (1859 Coleraine-1859 Coleraine).
3.   son (1 Oct.1860 Coleraine). Jasper?
4.   Jasper William Knox (c1861-1918 Manhattan, N.Y.) m.(1896 Manhattan, N.Y.) Mathill Emily McAllister (c1864 Vermont).
5.   William Knox (c1862 Aghadowey-1935 Gransha).
6.   Edward Codrington Hall “Eddie” Knox (1863 Coleraine-1923) m.(1900 Derry) Elizabeth E. Millar (c1875 Co.Donegal).
        1.   Violet Elizabeth M. Knox (1904 Derry).
        2.   Edward Knox (1911 Derry).
7.   Samuel Downes Knox (1864 Coleraine) m.(1892 Derry) Agnes Jane Fleming (c1863 Co. Donegal).
        1.   Edward Codrington H. “Eddie” Knox (1893 Derry) m.(1925 Letterkenny dist.) ___.
        2.   Samuel Downes Tallis Knox (1895 Derry).
        3.   Vera Eileen Agnes Knox (1896 Derry).
        4.   child (d.bef.1911).
8.   (George Walker) Perry Knox (1866 Derry-1883 Derry).
9.   James Knox (c1866?-1939 Goodna, Queensland, Australia).
10.   (John Mason) Cairns Knox (1869 Derry-1954).
11.   Martha Knox (c1870 Keely?-1923 Asylum, Derry).
12.   Mathilde Jane Helen Knox (c1874-1940 Manhattan, N.Y.).
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Re: Knox family, Derry (city)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 September 14 10:34 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Not sure if this is a help but I see 3 civil births registered to Samuel Knox and Elizabeth Downes:

1864 Male Knox, Coleraine Registration district

1866 No Name Knox Londonderry Urban No.1 district

1869 John Mason Knox Londonderry Urban No.1 district

Regards

PS. also found this death notice from the Londonderry Sentinel:

Downs Elizabeth 12-Jul-64
July 7, at 28 The Cedars, Purney, London, Elizabeth Downs,
mother of Mrs. Samuel Knox, Coleraine, after a lingering illness, in
the 70th year of her age.

Also from same paper:

Knox Son 27-May-59
May 18, at New Row, West, Coleraine, the wife of Mr. Samuel Knox, of
a son.

Knox Son 05-May-63 On the 28th April, at New Row, West Coleraine, the wife of Mr. S.
Knox, of a son.

Knox Son 06-Sep-64 On the 27th August, at New Row West, Coleraine, Mrs. Samuel Knox,
of a son.

Knox Son 08-May-66 May 3, at Crawford Square, Derry, the wife of Mr. Samuel Knox,
formerly of Coleraine, of a son.

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 Samuel Knox living in New Row, Coleraine, Solicitor in 1843 Street directory, possible connection?

Knox, Samuel, Son, & Sterling, Esqrs., Solicitors, New Row, Coleraine and 4 Blessington Street, Dublin.

also appears in the 1820 directory Attorney, New Row

 
McCorkell, Clarke, Williams, Craig, Baird, Peoples, MacDonald, Wray and associated families, Counties Donegal and Londonderry, Ireland and America

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Re: Knox family, Derry (city)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 September 14 14:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks for taking the time to post the details. I have all the Sentinel (and Coleraine Chronicle) notices for Samuel Knox's family but had missed his mother-in-law's obituary.

The Coleraine solicitors are a different Knox family (Samuel was originally from Aghadowey).
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