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Re: Barnabas Hamilton
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 20 March 12 01:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra,


My grandfather Robert White sp bc 14/1/1884, parents Gordon White and Eliza Hamilton married 9/12/1870 - this is proved by birth certificate Do you have marriage certificate of Gordon White to Eliza Hamilton, this would give parents of Eliza, to ensure correct family.

Eliza Hamilton sp bc 30/6/1851 parents Barnabas Hamilton and Margaret Stevenson - this is proved by birth certificate
Barnabas Hamilton sp dc 3/2/1902 married to 1 Margaret Stevenson 2 Agnes Bell parents Robert Hamilton and Helen Dempster. lds marriage record show 22/9/1849. - This is the Barney that I posted yesterday however need to prove marriages, I found him marrying a Margaret Glass. I have found the marriage to Margaret Stevenson on FreeReg will post after this.
1861 shows they have a daughter Eliza who is 9 so that tallies with above bc.  - MC above will confirm this.
lds marriage record for Robert Hamilton and Helen Dempster 23/12/1825. -
confirmed by FreeReg yesterday.

Tom
Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Pat(t)erson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.

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Re: Barnabas Hamilton
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 20 March 12 01:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra,

Barnabas Hamilton and Margaret Stevenson on FreeReg -

County - East Lothian
Place  - Tranent
Church - Tranent Parish Church
RegisterNumber -
MarriageDate - 22 Sep 1849
GroomForename - Barnabush (sic)
GroomSurname - HAMILTON
GroomParish - Tranent
GroomCondition - Bachelor
GroomOccupation - ploughman
GroomAbode - Myles (farm)
BrideForename - Margaret
BrideSurname - STEVENSON
BrideParish - Tranent
BrideCondition - Spinster
BrideOccupation -
BrideAbode - Portseton
BrideFatherForename - William
BrideFatherSurname  Stevenson
BrideFatherOccupation - hynd
Notes - Marriage Proclaimed 09 & 16 Sep
FileNumber - 3828

Its a small world I was born in Tranent and brought up in Port Seton

Tom

PS They had 2 children, Robert born 06 Dec 1849, and Eliza born 30 Jun 1851 as mentioned previously.
Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Pat(t)erson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.

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Re: Barnabas Hamilton
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 20 March 12 01:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra,

Margaret Stevenson's birth and baptism from FreeReg,


County - East Lothian
Place - Tranent
Church - Tranent Parish Church
DateOfBirth - 29 May 1831
BaptismDate - 12 Jun 1831
Forename - Margaret
Sex - F
FatherForename - WILLIAM
MotherForename - ELIZABETH
FatherSurname - STEVENSON
MotherSurname - THOMSON
Abode - TRANENT
FatherOccupation - PLOUGHMAN
Notes
FileNumber - 3811

Eliza obviously named after her grandmother

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Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.

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Re: Barnabas Hamilton
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 20 March 12 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tom,

A big thanks for taking time to help me unravel this.  I think we may have finally cracked it.

I have sp mc 9/2/1870 for Gordon and Eliza and her parents are given as Barnabas Hamilton and Margaret Stevenson.
sp mc for Barnabas, widower, parents  Robert Hamilton, Helen Dempster, and Agnes 30/11/1877.

A few minutes ago I found what I hope to be his sp bc Barney, son of Robert Hamilton and Helen Dempster, born 25/7/1827.

I think that this corroborates all previous findings or is there anything else to do before I look further back as some more names have come to light?

A trip to that neck of the woods could be interesting as the Whites came from that area too and I have done some research on them.

Once again thanks to everyone who took time to help.

Sandra


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Re: Barnabas Hamilton
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 20 March 12 14:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra,

Here is marriage of William Stevenson and Elizabeth Thomson, I was interested in this as I have Thomsons from Port Seton/Tranent in my tree, but this Thomson comes from Lasswade in Midlothian.

County - East Lothian
Place - Tranent
Church - Laswade Parish Church
MarriageDate - 06 Oct 1826
GroomForename - WILLIAM
GroomSurname - STEVENSON
GroomParish - Tranent
GroomOccupation - LABOURER
GroomAbode - TRANENT MAINS
BrideForename - ELIZABETH
BrideSurname - THOMSON
BrideParish - Lasswade
BrideCondition - Spinster
BrideAbode - EDGE MEWS
BrideFatherForename - WILLIAM
BrideFatherSurname - THOMSON
BrideFatherOccupation - HYND
Notes - Marriage Proclaimed 24 SEP & 1 OCT 1826
FileNumber - 3828

Tom
Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Pat(t)erson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.

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Re: Barnabas Hamilton
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 11:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Sandra,

I only joined Rootsweb yesterday after looking at your posts.

Just wondered if you were still doing the Hamilton Tree.
I am looking into it for my cousins husband, surname Hamilton * - Born 1964.
Below are the children I have for Barnabus & Margaret Hamilton.

Robert Hamilton- Born- December 6th 1849
Eliza Hamilton- Born- June 30th 1851
Helen Alison Hamilton- Born- January 3rd 1856
William Thomson Stevenson Hamilton-Born- September 26th 1853
James H Stevenson Hamilton- Born- November 23rd 1857
Agnes Bell Hamilton - Born- May 11th 1860
Margaret Stevenson Hamilton - Born- December 7th 1862
Andrew Alexander Stevenson Hamilton - Born- July 28th 1867
Alexander Stevenson Hamilton - Born- July 9th 1873
Margaret died shortly after the birth of Alexander after an infection after child birth.


I have quite an extensive tree drawn and wondered if you would like to swap info.

Graham

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Re: Barnabas Hamilton
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 14:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Graham,

Nice to hear from you.

Does all that goes before tie in with what you have found so far?  It really is a tricky business to make sure that you are on the right track as you can see from these posts.

Eliza Hamilton was my grandfather's mother and he named one of his daughters after her.

I have got back to a James Hamilton and Helen Fairbairn but am now stuck.

Sorry this is a bit of a rush but I am off on holiday soon and have a lot to do so please post anything you want to share and I can access on my ipod.

Cheers 

Sandra

PS Are you able to access my email?

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Re: Barnabas Hamilton
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 14:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Sandra and Graham

Welcome to RootsChat, Graham  :)

As soon as Graham does another couple of posts here on the main boards of RC, the Private Message service (PMs) will be activated so that you can exchange your personal emails.

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Re: Barnabas Hamilton
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 12 July 12 08:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Sandra, Monica,

Firstly, Monica, sorry about the first name thing.

Sandra,
I have the certs for most of the children named and have checked details from IGI on SP and they match up with a GROS Data number.
I live in Edinburgh and am a regular visitor into Register House and have a lot to check over for this and other trees and will get the other certs then.
Hopefully I will be able to gain access to your e-mail as I draw the tree on a system called autoCAD and can send a pdf of the full family tree and some of the certs for you to look at.
I am not sure if you are going with James Hamilton & Helen Fairbairn as Robert Hamiltons parents as his death certificate names his parents as Barnabus Hamilton, Occupation-Labourer, Setonhill & Elisabeth "Agnes" Kerr.
Also Roberts birth date is incorrect.
The asterix's on the info below indicates that I hold a copy of the certificate as per the page in the Births, Deaths & Marriages books, Register House, General Register of Scotland.
Here goes-

Robert Hamilton
Born*- August 5th 1804, Baptised August 12th, by the Reverend Mr Hamilton.
Witnesses- Archibald Hamilton & George Wallace.
GROS Data- Statutory Births - OPR - 708-00-0030-0136
Registered- FR752 Gladsmuir, East Lothian.
Occupation- Agricultural Labourer, Farm Grieve, Farm Steward. 
Died*- June 1st 1871, Aged 65 Years, High Street, Dunbar.
Page No 8, Entry No 22, 1871 Book of Deaths.
Parish of Dunbar, County of Haddington.
GROS Data - Statutory Deaths - 706-00-0022
Informant- Andrew Hamilton (Son)
Married*- Robert Hamilton in Dunbar parish and Helen Dempster
in this Parish (Gladsmuir) were regulary Married December 24th 1825
Page 17, 1825 Book of Births, Baptisms & Marriages,
GROS Data- Statutory Marriages - OPR - 707-000-0020-0020
Helen Dempster
(Born- January 29th 1798, Baptised- February 11th 1798, Garvald Parish Church, East Lothian.
Register Vol I, Number 206 - TBC- Info from rootsweb)
Died- ?
Children of Robert & Helen-
(1) Agnes Hamilton - Born*- November 20th, 1825,
(2) Barnabuss Hamilton - Born*- 1827.
Barney, Son of Robert Hamilton & Helen Dempster his Wife in Old Hailes was Born July 25th 1827 and baptised August 12th 1827 at Prestonkirk, East Lothian.
Witnesses- Robert Brickton & John Weddle.
Page 23, 1827 Book of Births & Baptisms
GROS Data- Statutory Births - OPR - 717-000-0030-0026
Occupations- Agricultural Labourer, Ploughman at Redhaugh.
Died*- 1902
Married*- (1st Wife) 1849
Barnabush Hamilton, Ploughman at Myles & Margaret Stevenson, Prestonpans, Parish of Tranent, Daughter of William Stevenson, at Portobello were proclaimed on 9th & 16th of September and married
September 22nd, Portobello Farm,Tranent, East Lothian.
Page 440, 1849 Book of Marriages
Margaret Stevenson (1st Wife)
(Born- May 29th 1831, Baptised- June 12th 1831,
Tranent Parish Church, East Lothian. TBC- Info from rootsweb)
Occupation-
Died*- August 16th 1873, at 11.05pm, Aged 42 Years, at Redhaugh
GROS Data - Statutory Deaths - 731-00-0015
Informant- Barnabuss Hamilton (Husband)
Barnabuss Hamilton
Born- July 25th 1827, Prestonkirk, East Lothian.
Occupation- Ploughman
Died*- February 3rd 1902, at 01.07am, Aged 70 Years,
at Polton Farm Cottages, Lasswade.
GROS Data - Statutory Deaths - 691-00-0014
Informant- William Hamilton (Son)
Married*- November 13th 1877, Ayton Manse, Berwick.
GROS Data- Statutory Marriages - 727-00-0010
Agnes Bell (2nd Wife)
Born- (1881 Census B-1827) or 1833?
Occupation- Domestic Servant
Died- 1908, Aged 75 Years, 
District of Dalkieth, County of Midlothian
GROS Data - Statutory Deaths - 683-00-0056
(TBC- at Register House)
(3) Peter Hamilton Born- April 25th 1829, Morham, East Lothian. Died? Not on 1841 Census
(4) Alison Hamilton Born- May 28th 1831, Athelstaneford, East Lothian. Died? Not on 1841 Census
Check Death- October 25th 1838, Alison Hamilton. Registered- Innerwick, East Lothian
(5) James Hamilton Born- November 4th 1833, North Berwick, East Lothian
(6) Gilbert Hamilton Born- February 8th 1836, Prestonkirk, East Lothian. Died? Not on 1841 Census
(7) Mary Hamilton Born- August 12th 1838, Spott, East Lothian
(8) Andrew Hamilton Born- May 15th 1841, Spott, East Lothian,Informant on Fathers Death Cert 1871.
Hopefully you can copy and paste onto a word doc to have a better look.

Graham Reilly