LOCKHART and grasping at straws

[Skoosh]

Janey, Black's Surnames, has the name Crevie/Crevey, curtailed forms of MacCrevie, and Clerie in Galloway. I don't see anything for Clezie etc'. Given that "Z" was the Scots letter "Yoch" and generally pronounced as "Y", how was it pronounced?

Skoosh.

[JaneyCanuck]

I have no clue! Seriously, if you read the other threads on this topic, the poster is looking for someone named Ellen Lockhart who married a Clezie/Crezie; our efforts have been directed toward finding her Lockhart family and have now focused on tracing a family consisting of the children of William Lockhart and Margaret Henderson, married in Scotland in 1811, with Margaret Lockhart subsequently marrying John Cloyd(e), apparently in NY state in the 1840s.

The Clezie family in question (George Clezie married Jean Lockie 1813, Berwick, Scotland) is really peripheral to the search; James Clezie is the man Ellen Lockhart married in NY state, but his family is all accounted for, backwards and forwards .

From what you say about pronunciation ... wouldn't it be funny if John Cloyd(e), who married Margaret Henderson Lockhart (hypothesized to be James Clezie's mother-in-law in NY state) was really a member of the Clezie/Crezie, er, "clan", himself! In fact heiserca alluded to just that possibility,
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,601912.msg4579515.html#msg4579515
there being an unaccounted for John Clazey who matches his details. My goodness, you have opened up whole new avenues for speculation!!

[Skoosh]

 

[grendlsmother]

Just to cast a spanner in the works - I have a  Lockhart ancestor who often used the name  Lockie.   Perhaps you should check on this spelling when checking the Scottish end.   (I have read the posts carefully and nothing ties up with my lot).
GM

[UNDERTAKER]

i am related to grant and gillespie families in scotland. do you know if any of the henderson family were born with grant and gillespie roots in scotland.?


T.

[JaneyCanuck]

for info, now updated here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=595931

wherein heiserca entirely adopts the Lockhart-Cloyde hypothesis and the suggestion that Ellen was the daughter of William Lockhart and Margaret Henderson (later Margaret Cloyde) of Paisley.