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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 07 August 14 10:04 BST (UK) »
Gladys's father was a fishmonger?!

So I don't see a professional relationship, either! ;D
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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 07 August 14 10:39 BST (UK) »
The Freemans lived at two different addresses in Aldershot in 1901 and 1911, but they may be just residential addresses not living above the fish shop. The two addresses are about 0.4 miles apart on foot, longer by road because of modern one way systems. James Percival was a single lodger again at two different addresses but just round the corner from each other and just under half a mile from either of the Freeman addresses. So in a small area but not that close. James Percival was a bicycle repairer when in Aldershot but became a fruiterer (and florist?) when he was in Bournemouth, but don't know how soon after arriving he changed. The Blackburns were in Yorkshire in 1911, but must have arrived in Aldershot by Sept 1915 for birth of George Raymond. With Aldershot's association with the military, it is possible Mr Blackburn joined the army after outbreak of war and posted there and the family came too. Ethel Nellie started a relationship with James P, George R may be his natural child in which case that would place the Blackburns in Aldershot late in 1914, But as Ethel was married to Mr Blackburn he was registered as his child.
Gladys may have been a friend of Ethels. George R's birth cert should give the Blackburn's residence at the time of his birth, maybe close to the Freemans. James P was in Poole by 1920, but not known if Ethel and the children were with him at that stage.

Gladys's father and James P were both born in Lambeth, maybe the connection goes further back than Aldershot.
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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 07 August 14 14:42 BST (UK) »
James left money to George R Schofielf, Marion Huntington and Gladys Sophie Freeman.
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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #48 on: Friday 08 August 14 13:27 BST (UK) »
Hi tiawooster

Do you have all the information you are after on this family now or is there something else we should be looking for.

We have established James mother as Ethel Nellie Rowley and found his probable birth under the surname Blackburn(e).  We assume that his parents never married as Ethel was still married.

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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #49 on: Saturday 09 August 14 07:03 BST (UK) »
I would like to thank you for all the work you have done for me, just a small question, is there anywhere on line as I am unable to travel I could look for a photo or advert for Schofield grocers or fruit shop not sure as on his death certificate he was a master fruiter, I have googled and come uo with nothing. many thanks again.
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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #50 on: Saturday 09 August 14 14:18 BST (UK) »
In the 1946 Bournemouth telephone directory, James Percival's home address was 10A Prince of Wales road, the entry below is J P Schofield, Florist, Fruiterer, 3 Grand Parade, Poole road, Westbourne. I can't find this on a modern map, but suspect it would have been close to the old Grand cinema just east of the junction of Poole Road and Seemoor road.
Adverts might be in a local paper of the time. The Bournemouth Echo would be the obvious one, but I don't think this is on FindMyPast.
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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #51 on: Saturday 09 August 14 14:27 BST (UK) »
Just found a reference on Flickr which has 4 and 5 Grand Parade aka 53 and 55 Poole road, so number 3 should be 51 Poole Road. Just found it on Google streetmap, but not a fruiterer now.
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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #52 on: Friday 22 August 14 08:14 BST (UK) »
I thought you may like to see these from the Bournemouth Echo
Alley, Nottingham, Wandsworth, London
Brookes,  Sneinton, LondonNottinhamshire, Leicestershire
Cochrane, Glasgow, London
Caley, Durham, Yorkshire
Schofield, London, Hampshire
Solomon, London, Portsmouth
Williams Mary Ann, Middlesex
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Bramley, Loughorough,  Leicestershire, Ireland, Scotland