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Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« on: Friday 24 January 14 02:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi - I realize that people died a lot earlier in the 1800's, but my two relatives were young even by those standards, particularly my 3rd G grandfather.

Edmond and Elizabeth Hatter (nee Grainger/Granger) died quite young and left their three small children orphaned.  I am trying to find out how/why they died.

Edmond Hatter born 1828 (Bromham, Wilts) D 1857 Devizes Wilts age 29
Elizabeth Hatter born 1823 (Bromham, Wilts) D 1861 Bromham Wilts age 36

Is this type of information available anywhere?  Would it be possible to obtain copies of a death certificate?  If anyone could assist I would be most appreciative.  Thanks in advance
Carol
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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 January 14 07:02 GMT (UK) »
You can search for their death registration on FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl as below. 

You can buy the Certificates from the General Register Office online for £9.25 using the  ref numbers http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Edmund Hatter    ec Qtr 1857 Devizes    Vol 5a Page 59

Eliza Hatter Dec Qtr  1861 Devizes Vol 5a Page 48

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 January 14 07:09 GMT (UK) »
I think it was poisoning due to their occupation, I'm thinking it was mercury.

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 January 14 08:01 GMT (UK) »
I think it was poisoning due to their occupation, I'm thinking it was mercury.
Were they hatters by trade also, not just by name?
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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 January 14 08:21 GMT (UK) »
it would help i suppose if someones looked at the census to find their occ......... :)

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 January 14 08:42 GMT (UK) »
In 1851, Edmund was an Allotment Farmer of 2 Acres?! ;D

Class: HO107; Piece: 1839; Folio: 544; Page: 10
Westbrook Green, Bromham, Wiltshire

Hatter, Edmund  Head  M  28  Allotment Farmer of 2 Acres  b Bromham
Hatter, Elizabeth  Wife  F  28  b Bromham
Hatter, Charles  Son  M  2  b Bromham
Hatter, Henry  Son  7 months  b Bromham
Pearce, Abigail  Visitor  F  14  b Heddington
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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 January 14 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Snap!  Age for Elizabeth/Eliza does not quite fit but it must be the right family.  The family next door is John Hatter age 46 - a relative? - Jane age 32 and dau Jane age 1.

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 January 14 14:36 GMT (UK) »
Excellent thanks everyone.... yes it is my understanding he was an allotment farmer not a "hatter" by trade. 

I will pursue the document route to see if anything was listed in the records.

Thanks again, Carol
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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 January 14 04:04 GMT (UK) »
Edmond and Elizabeth Hatter (nee Grainger/Granger) died quite young and left their three small children orphaned.  I am trying to find out how/why they died.

Edmond Hatter born 1828 (Bromham, Wilts) D 1857 Devizes Wilts age 29
Elizabeth Hatter born 1823 (Bromham, Wilts) D 1861 Bromham Wilts age 36

How confident are you of the details for the death of Elizabeth HATTER?  In 1861 Census [7th April] three of her four children are recorded 'relative' with the COTTLE couple at Bromham [RG9 piece 1292 folio 120 page 20] but Mark is with his grandmother GRANGER at Calne [RG9 piece 1286 folio 165 page 13].

The four children's baptisms at Chittoe are recorded on the FamilySearch website.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
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