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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 30 January 14 02:28 GMT (UK) »
Josie - I see there was a problem with Diptheria in and around the time of death of my relatives. 

1856 Typhus epidemic (London) followed returning soldiers from Crimean War; diphtheria epidemic

1857 Diphtheria epidemic

1858  Diphtheria epidemic; scarlatina epidemic

Might be a good lead. I will try to follow that up.  Thanks again.
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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 30 January 14 08:16 GMT (UK) »
The LDS have family history centres which are worldwide.  You can order films of most UK church records to search there.   Check at your local one to see how to do it.  There are further details on the familysearch site I think.  Before the days of the internet I spent hours at my local one going through the films of parishes I wanted to research.  They also give the burials and vicars often added snippets of detail which can be very useful.   It helps put the wider family into perspective too.   First rule of research - always look at original records!

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 30 January 14 08:55 GMT (UK) »
have to agree with sillygen   ...get the films seek the originals and    buy the certificates to get the truth//////   one can make all the theory sound plausable but  the truth is all that matters at the end of the day
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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 30 January 14 09:57 GMT (UK) »
I personally would invest in purchasing the death certificates available directly from the Chippenham Record Office (quicker) or from the General Register Office.  I believe you can order over the phone from Chippenham

I find if you get the certificate issued from the local register office and tell them you only want to buy it if certain information meets the criteria that you know eg. parents names etc then normally you can get a refund. 

Well most of the register offices I have dealt with across the UK have certainly been helpful in that respect - have save a packet over the amount of years have been researching


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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 30 January 14 15:19 GMT (UK) »
Sillgen: Thanks so much, I didn't realize that service was available.  Turns out there is an LDS Family Histories Centre on my street here in Canada!!!  I will contact them to see what they offer and how to access the service.

Trancesgirl:  Yes that is an option I have been considering.  The problemis that I have paid for and ordered several certificates in the past and they were pretty much useless.  They should have had place of birth, parents' names etc.  Yet they only had the names of the two people married and the date of marriage and on the death certificate... nothing about where they were from or parentage etc.  It was an expensive lesson.  So, if I can find information via other routes I will try that first.  If not, I will go the "ordering of paperwork" route.   Thanks for the info on ordering via the Chippenham Record Office, that sounds helpful.
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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 30 January 14 16:42 GMT (UK) »
The problemis that I have paid for and ordered several certificates in the past and they were pretty much useless.  They should have had place of birth, parents' names etc.  Yet they only had the names of the two people married and the date of marriage and on the death certificate... nothing about where they were from or parentage etc.

Death certificates from England & Wales contain very little information!
Example here: http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/documents/digitalasset/dg_176222.pdf

Scottish certificates contain more information ;D
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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 30 January 14 17:27 GMT (UK) »
LOl  - well I do at least have a couple of "rellies" from Scotland so hopefully, that will prove more useful.
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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 30 January 14 17:40 GMT (UK) »
I actually live quite close to Chittoe, and the Wiltshire history centre.

I won't be able to check the records until next week but if you still need someone to go and see what is there I will go and take a look then.

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 30 January 14 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Glencare - that would be wonderful!!  I will msge you on the side to see what information you need from me to accomplish that.  Thanks so much.
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ