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Re: McQueen Brick Wall
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 15 April 14 09:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Ian,

Thanks Ian, some days I cannot see the wood for the trees!

Yes, I now see what you mentioned re Dick surname. However I cannot understand that the same John McQueen was raising 2 families with 2 different spouses at the same time. I haven't seen this type of thing since the LDS changed, and used to have submitted records, where you were sent on wild goose chases.

I think I will go back to the 2 death certificates and work from them.

Tom
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Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.

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Re: McQueen Brick Wall
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 15 April 14 10:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Tom
I remember that I traced this Mary Dick and indeed she married a John McQueen but the children were not the same, so whoever owns that tree in my opinion has made a mistake. I did actually take her off my list quite early on in my research. But I could be wrong.
I did find a marriage of a Nielson and McQueen and thought maybe he had re-married.

Of course the names on the death certificates could be wrong!!
I will have to start again and see what that brings up.

The search continues.
Thank you.

Ian

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Re: McQueen Brick Wall
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 15 April 14 10:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Tom

This link from LDS - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SRFM-V8Z - include only a submitted member tree/pedigree file. They come up under 'Genealogy' tab at the top of family search screen. See notes on https://familysearch.org/family-trees:

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I haven't been able to find original extracted entries indexed on LDS for either John or Margaret, siblings with parents' names or parents' marriage from the names we have.  The closest I have come is to the son of a John McQueen and a Catherine Neilson, Joseph and his family details. Ian, there is a possibility (pain when it happens) that a mistake was made on John's death cert which showed mother's maiden name as Ross. The info is only as good as that reported by the informant in these cases.

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Re: McQueen Brick Wall
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 15 April 14 10:22 BST (UK) »
Sorry Ian and Tom - talking part nonsense  :P I hadn't checked for Neilson and McQueen, just for Ross.

This is the marriage you might have seen Ian in 1802 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XT12-FYZ

There are these possible births

Daniel 1807 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTR6-4MP
John 1812 in England https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JWVD-SD9 *
Joseph 1815 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VQC3-X7W

Could your John have been born in England but lived either side in Edinburgh?

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Re: McQueen Brick Wall
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 15 April 14 11:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Monica, Ian et al,

Looking at Jn Loggan McQueen's birth entry,

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JWVD-SD9

He was actually born 10 Dec 11 but not baptised until 02 Feb 1812 in All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne. Do you think Jn McQueen senior was a soldier or militiaman, who had to move, and possibly young Jn Loggan could have been born in Edinburgh?

Tom
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Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.

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Re: McQueen Brick Wall
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 15 April 14 11:48 BST (UK) »
Hi
This English connection could be something. John McQueen and Margaret Rankin had a son John, born according to the censuses in Liverpool.

Here is what I think to be the baptism in 1835.... https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J3N1-FQ1

This is also on the OPC of the County of Lancashire site... http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Ian

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Re: McQueen Brick Wall
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 15 April 14 11:50 BST (UK) »
  :-\ Equally tricky seems to be Margaret Rankin's side.

There is William Rankine, a baker by occupation b. Midlothian and aged 75. He shows at the  Edinburgh City Workhouse, New Greyfriars.

Aged 75 in 1841, with the recommended rounding down of years for those over 15 years old, means that this William could have been aged anywhere from 75-79.

Monica

Hi Monica
I'm sorry but I cannot locate this William on Ancestry or Familysearch or Scotlandspeople. Can you give me link please.

Ian

Hi Monica
Can you tell me where you found this info please. Thanks.

Ian

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Re: McQueen Brick Wall
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 15 April 14 14:06 BST (UK) »
Ian, a good place to check that 1841 census entry for William Rankin, baker, at the City Poorhouse in Edinburgh is on http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl  A better transcript than elsewhere  ::)

Monica
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