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Re: Watson
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 29 May 11 10:34 BST (UK) »
Have you any news re the birth Zena Martha Alice Watson???

I am still awaiting some info from overseas in relation to what I have found, trying to ascertain if this person knew of the story of Joseph Watson going to Canada, in which case I will have found the correct family.

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HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.

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Re: Watson
« Reply #19 on: Monday 30 May 11 10:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Bendywendy,
Just got back from my Rome trip, got your lastest message,you've been busy and the info looks very interesting that you have dug up re the birth in Canada so I have sent it on to Canada and await a reply.

Thanks Broadgate.

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Re: Watson
« Reply #20 on: Monday 30 May 11 14:00 BST (UK) »
IF.... I have found the correct family and this elderly person in NZ knows of the story of Canada, then I think I can say 99% that the family is that of Joseph, still awaiting news from NZ/Aus, will let you know asap.
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HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.

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Re: Watson
« Reply #21 on: Monday 30 May 11 14:42 BST (UK) »
Just got a reply from Canada, I dont know how you do it but you hit the jackpot.
Zena is the second child to Joseph & Alice the first being William Gordon Grey Watson born 1907 who is the father of my friend who is asking me to find out about Joseph Watson and where he is from and who was he.
 Well done Wendybendy, carnt wait to hear what else you can discover.

Broadgate.


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Re: Watson
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 02 June 11 20:45 BST (UK) »
bendywendy

Did you get the plugins, was ahead of myself if you go to

http://treasurehouse.eastriding.gov.uk/

The plugins are on the left hand side

Should be able to get a picture of the houses that No 14 on the schedule is in. It appears the houses have been renumbered over the years. The row of houses were numbered odd and even (1,2,3,4 etc) they are now numbered odd only (1,3,5,7 etc). Houses are only on one side of the street

Walford  Staffordshire,Yorkshire
Boyes     Beverley, Hull
Allison     Beverley, Hull
Bowser   East Yorkshire
Etherton Sussex

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Re: Watson
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 02 June 11 21:12 BST (UK) »
works now, thanks..
Watson info to follow tomorrow.


Broadgate's and his friend have now confirmed that the family I have found is indeed the correct family. Starting with Joseph's Grandparents, his parents and then Joseph's family.

1841 census   Kirk Ella Grange, West Ella, Sculcoates, Hessle, Yks.  All born in County of Yorks.
This entry has been transcribed as WaLson !!
Joseph Watson, 55, Farmer   
Elizabeth Watson, 45
Hannah Watson, 20
William Watson, 17  married Elizabeth Holmes - some checking to do on this as he states F. John W ?
Sarah Watson, 15  married George Henry Wilson 2 Sep 1848 York Marriage Bonds & Allegations York 1618-1887
                                                  GHW bap 15 Nov 1827 Wakefield  F. Robert Wilson  M. Bessy Parkinson
Elizabeth Watson, 12  married John Rowland Curtois @ Sculcoates 24 Apr 1855 Marriage Bonds & Allegations York  1618-1887
                                                  JRC born 14 Feb/bap 14 Mar 1834 Kirton Lindsey  F. Thomas Curtois   M. Anne Chappill
Rebeckah Watson, 10
Joseph Watson, 7
Jane Watson, 4  married David Barr 29 Jul 1856 York Marriage Bonds & Allegations York  1618-1887
                                                     DB Born 20 Sep 1833 Bap 20 Oct 1833 Normanby near Spittal in the Street, Lincs
                                                                          F. William Barr   M. Ann poss Awcock/Johnson
Charlot Ellerton, 40 Servant Cook

Go to page 10 reply 96 by Pankpop for more info on these children and who they married and their children
HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.

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Re: Watson
« Reply #24 on: Friday 03 June 11 10:26 BST (UK) »
continue..... Broadgate's and his friend have now confirmed that the family I have found is indeed the correct family. Starting with Joseph's Grandparents, his parents and then Joseph's family.


1851 census   All residing at Kirk Ella Grange, Kirk Ella, Yorks     HO107/2360  437 1
Joseph Watson, Head, Widower, 66  B. West Ella, Yorks   Farmer occupying 460 acres employing ..... difficult to read how many employed 
 Elizabeth Watson  Dau, Unm, 22  Farmers Dau  B. Little Weighton, Yorks
Joseph Watson  Son, Unm, 17  Farmers Son      B. Kirk Ella, Yorks     married Martha Walker
Jane Watson  Dau, Unm, 14  Scholar                  B. Kirk Ella, Yorks
Edward Atkinson  Grandson, 8, Scholar              B. Cottingham, Yorks
George H. Wilson  Visitor  Marr, 24 Corn & Seed Merchant  B. Wakefield, Yorks
Sarah Wilson         Visitor Marr, 25                      B. Little Weighton, Yorks
James Wilson        Visitor   1                               B. Hull, Yorks
Charlott Smith  Servant  Unm, 24  General Servant       B. Brigg, Lincs
Hannah Hammond  Servant  Unm, 18 General Servant  B. Beeford, Yorks
Hannah Baxter  Servant Unm, 19    ?? Servant          B. Holme, Yorks
William Acey  Servant  Unm, 19 Waggoner                    B. Welton, Yorks
George Baxter  Servant  Unm, 19 Plough Man               B. Leconfield, Yorks
William Atkin  Servant  Unm, 21  Plough Man                 B. Grimsby, Lincs
William Atkinson  Servant  Unm, 16  Plough Man           B. Swanland, Yorks
Charles Maw  Servant  Unm, 21 Plough Man                  B. West Ella, Yorks
Richard Shields  Servant  Unm, 16 Groom                       B. Anlaby, Yorks
Nevil Ennis   Servant  Unm, 16  Cow Hand                     B. Hull, Yorks
George Savige  Servant Marr, 25  Shepherd                   B. Cawood, Yorks


1861 census   All residing at Kirk Ella Grange, Kirk Ella, Yorkshire   RG9/3578  69  18
Joseph Watson  Head, Marr, 27 Farmer 900 acres of land employing Labs & 4 Boys  B. Kirk Ella Grange
Martha Watson  wife, Marr, 27  B. Preston, Yorks
***Joseph Watson  son, 4              B. Kirk Ella Grange
Arthur Watson   son, 2              B. Kirk Ella Grange
Annie G Watson dau, 11mths    B. Kirk Ella Grange
Martha Dean  Servant, Unm, 18, House Servant  B. Leconfield, Yorks
Sarah Herdsman  Servant, Unm, 16, Nurse Maid  B. Beverley, Yorks
John Bruning  Servant, Unm, 24  Groom                B. Colchester, Essex

           ***Joseph Watson c 1857 (Canada)
Possible Marriage for Joseph Watson to Martha Walker, Mar Q 1857 Sculcoates, Yks


1871 census   Joseph's Parents n Sister  All residing at Kirk Ella, Sculcoates, Hessle, Yks   RG10/4777  9  12
Joseph Watson, Head, Marr, 37, Farmer of 1360 acres employing 15 Labourers & 11 Boys  B. Grange Kirk Ella
Martha Watson, Wife, Marr, 37     B. Brantingham, Yks
Ada Watson, Dau, Unm, 7,            B. Kirk Ella
Ann Nicholson, Servant, Unm, 21, Housemaid  B. Newland, Yks
Lavinia Andrew, Servant, Unm, 21, Cook          B. West Ella Grange
Annie Srain/Snaie, Servant, Unm, 14, Nurse Girl     B. Ridley, Yks
John McKee, Servant, Unm, 24, Groom             B. Skirlaugh, Yks

Joseph Watson c 1857 son of Joseph & Martha Watson
1871 census   Church Street, Great Driffield, Yorks        RG10/4807   58 7
Arthur Watson, Boarder, 12 B. Kirk Ella  - Mistranscribed as WaKson !! tis clear on original as Watson.
Joseph Watson, Boarder, 14 B. Kirk Ella
Schoolmaster was a Mr James Firth with wife Kate. There is 33 other boys listed. This would be a private school, possible connected with the Church.


1881 census Joseph's Father & Sister   All Residing at Woodhouse, Cottingham, Sculcoates, Yks  RG11/4748  110 9
Joseph Watson, Head, Widower, 47, Farmer of 3000 acres of land employing 34 men and 35 boys   B. Kirk Ella
Annie Watson, Dau, Unm, 20     B. Kirk Ella
Harry Dalton, Visitor, Unm, 22, Merchant Clerk   B. Hull, Yk
George Stephenson, Servant, Unm, 21, Groom Domestic   B. Sutton, Yks
Emma Parrott, Servant, Unm, 19, Cook                               B. Paul, Yks

Possible Death for Martha Watson, Mar Q 1873, Sculcoates, Yks age 39 yrs
HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.

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Re: Watson
« Reply #25 on: Friday 03 June 11 10:40 BST (UK) »
Joseph Watson c 1857 son of Joseph & Martha Watson
1881 census   All residing at Kirk Ella Grange Farm House, Hessle, Sculcoates, Yorks  RG11/4750  85 6
Joseph Watsan born Kirk Ella, Head, Unm, 24, Farmer of 500 acres of land, employing 14 men.
Ada E Watsan, Sister,  Unm, 17  B Kirk Ella.
Ellanor F. Bean - visitor - Unm, 16 B. Hull
Amy S. Bean - visitor - Unm, 16 B. Hull
Matilda Gravel,     Servant, Marr, 20 Cook B. Epworth, Lincs
Elizabeth Kirby,     Servant, Unm, 30, Housekeeper B. Sheffield
Eliza Fetherston   Servant, Unm, 16 Housemaid Domestic B. West Ella, Yorks
Arthur Kirby,          Servant, Unm, 16 Groom B. Anlaby, Yorks
George Taylor,      Servant, Marr, 53 Shepherd   B. Beverley, Yorks

Note surname was written as WatsAn


1891 census   All residing at Farm House, Low Gardham, Etton, Cherry Burton, Beverley, Yorks   RG12/3909  57  12
Joseph Watson Head, M, 33  Farmer & Employer   B. Kirk Ella
Lavinia Watson Wife, M, 27  B. Hull
Joseph Watson son 7, Scholar  B. Kirk Ella       see 1901 census Melbourne, Butcher App
Dorothy E Watson dau 2  B. Gardham, Cherry Burton
Cyril D (Douglas?) Watson   son 1  B. Gardham, Cherry Burton
Clara E Ridd/Rise  Servant  S. 30  School Governess   Employed  B. Hull
Jane Cooke/Croke? Servant  S. 27  Housemaid (Domestic) B. Hull
Mary Kell           Servant  S. 24  Cook  (Domestic)  B. Foggathorpe
Mary Kay          Servant  S. 16   Nurse (Domestic)  B. Dalton Holme
Geo W Crawford  Servant S. 25  Groom (Domestic) B. Swanland

Possible Marriage for Joseph Watson to Lavinia Sanderson, Mar Q 1883, Sculcoates, Yks 
Possible Birth for Lavinia Sanderson, Sep Q 1863 Hull 9d
Possible Birth Joseph Watson, Sculcoates Dec Q 1883
Possible Birth Dorothy Ethel Watson, Beverley Sep Q 1888
Possible Birth Cyril Douglas Watson, Beverley Mar Q 1890


1901 census   All residing at Low Gardham, Cherry Burton, Beverley, Yorks  RG13/4463 23 13
Joseph Watson  Head  44  Married   Farmer & Employer  B. Kirk Ella
Dorothy E Watson dau 12  B. Gardham, Etton
Cyril D Watson son 11        B. Gardham, Etton
Enid L. J. Watson dau 5      B. Gardham, Etton
Kate Clarke     Boarder  S. 25 Governess/Domestic  B. Hundon Clare, Suffolk
Ellen Glasby     Servant  S. 22 Housemaid/Domestic  B. Hedon, Yorks
Jessie Hatfield  Servant S. 31 Cook/Domestic         B. Barton on Humber, Lincs
Mary J Sanderson    Servant S. 16 Kitchenmaid/Domestic    B. Sancton, Yorks
Ada R. Usher     Servant  S. 21  Nurse/Domestic    B. Beverley

Birth Enid Lavinia J Watson, Sep Q 1895
Note:- No Lavinia Watson and Joseph is not noted as Widower either, but...

1901 census Nursing Home  22 Albion Street, Sculcoates (part of) Kingston Upon Hull  RG13/4496  73  16
Lavinia Watson  Married  36  Patient  B. Hull
I would presume this was a private nursing home given the amount of Servants etc this family has employed over the years. The building is still standing, the numbers go in numerical order down one side of the street. 
  
Possible Death for a Lavinia Watson Jun Q 1908  Beverley District 9d  44 yrs.
Lavinia died 1 yr after her husband Joseph Watson eloped with her pregnant Carer Alice Hood, to Canada.


1901 Census – Melbourne, York   In the home of Arthur C Dales, Butcher
Joseph Watson  18, Servant – Butchers Assistant   Born Cherry Burton (this could be because he ws living in CB on 1891 census, so maybe grew up there and thought that was his birthplace.
RG13/4453  34  13
Does anyone have any information on this Joseph Watson, did he return to live back home when his father eloped?? Who did he marry??

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Genuki – Kirk Ella      http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Kirkella/index.html
Baines Directory 1823 http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Kirkella/Kirkella23.html
William Watson, Farmer, West Ella

Post Office Directory 1857       http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Kirkella/Kirkella57Dry.html
Joseph Watson, Farmer, at Grange Kirk Ella
William Watson, Farmer, at Grange Kirk Ella

Bulmer’s Directory 1892           http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Kirkella/Kirkella92Dry.html
Mrs Ann Watson, Trader, Kirk Ella
Kirk Ella Grange Farm is now in the hands of John Henry Tiffin & Son NOT Watson anymore, but maybe one of the dau’s married into the Tiffin family??

1834 Electoral Roll for the parish of Kirk Ella  http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/CBW/ERYrolls/Kirkella.html
3723   Watson, Joseph   Kirk Ella Grange   50 acres of land, as occupier   Kirk Ella, Grange Farm
3747   Watson, William   West Ella   150 acres of land, above the yearly rent of £50, and occupier   West Ella Grange

HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.

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Re: Watson
« Reply #26 on: Friday 03 June 11 10:46 BST (UK) »
Canada Info for Joseph Watson & Alice Hood

1911 Canada Census @ Mimico Village
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002037533.pdf
Province.. Ontario
District No.. 136 York Centre
District No... 6
Enumeration District.. 1
Mimico Village, June 5-6th 1911

57 Buckingham Street.  Watson, Joseph 
Head 51 yrs Born March 1862 England. 
Year of Emigration 1907.   
Race English.    Nationality Canadian.   
Rel. Anglican.    Can Read & Write.  Speaks English. 
Occ Gardener 0.6.08.  Weeks employed in 1910 = 35 wks.  Total earning in 1910 = 350.   Insurance Upon Life = 200.  Cost of Insurance in current year = 1300. 
Alice, wife 27 yrs Dec 1883 England.
Year of Emigration 1907.
Race English, Nationality Canadian. Rel, Anglican. Can Read & Write, Speaks English
William Gordon, Son, 3 yrs born Aug 1907 Ontario. Race English. Nationality, Canadian. Speaks English
Zena Martha, Dau, 3mths born Feb 1911 Ontario.

Lodgers with them..
Ainsworth, John 23 yrs Born Sep 1887 England. S. Year of Emigration 1908.  Methodist.  Labourer          Nationality. Canadian
Ainsworth, Robert 21 yr Born Jun 1889 England. S.  Year of Emigration 1911  Methodist   Labourer          Nationality English
Ainsworth, William 15 yrs Born July 1895 England. S.  Year of Emigration 1910  Methodist   Pipe Maker.  Nationality Canadian

Information of:-
William Gordon Gray Watson  1907  &  Zena Martha Alice Watson  1911

No marriage details found for Joseph Watson to Alice Hood, although they became members of the All Staints Anglican Church in Robinson Street Niagaga Falls. They are both buried there.  Joseph Watson born 1857 and died 1931 Stamford township Niagara Falls.  Alice Hood born 1885 died 1979 aged 94

HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.