Does any one have access to East Pennard Parrish records?

[Sherbertrose]

My 3x Great Grand parents  John Mitchell and Ann Pike married in East Pennard 1 Mar 1813. I have record showing witnesses c/o freereg. However, I am hoping that the original marriage record may give a parish for John as I am struggling to find where and when John was baptised-he died in 1846 so I do not have a place of birth to help me.

Any help will be most welcome.

[t mo]

hi
found this bpt for a john Michel 1 april 1742 kilmington somerset
regards
trevor

[shirl100]

Have you found John on the 1841 census to give a vague idea of his age?

Shirl

[Sherbertrose]

Hi Shirl,

John is on the 1841 census living in Kilmersdon with his wife Ann and some of their children. His age is given as 40, but I think this value has been rounded as I fairly certain that the marriage in 1813 is the correct marriage and the burial in 1846 gives his death as 54. Therefore, he would have been born c1792

Sandra

[KGarrad]

On the 1841 census Adult ages (i.e 15 and over) were supposed to be rounded down to a multiple of 5 years.
So an age of 40 would indicate an age of 40-44.

Also, Parish Register marriage entries will only tell you where he was living for the required 3 weeks while the banns were called - it won't tell you where he was born!

[Sherbertrose]

Thank you for your response. I didn't realise that the bride and grooms parish only related to the time whilst the banns were being called so that is useful to know for future reference. However, with reference to the age of birth I am as sure as I can be that the ages on the 1841 census are rounded up. Ann(Pike) was baptised in 1793 and I am as sure as I can be that the marriage I have for the couple is correct - this is based on the middle name (Pike) of one of the couples children the age of the children and the occupation of John on the childrens' baptisms and the census return.

So, it looks like it is back to the drawing board. My quest to find John's baptism and his parents seems as illusive as ever. I would dearly love to get back further on this line as John is my direct ancestor.

Sandra

[KGarrad]

This from FindMyPast:

Note:
In the 1841 Census a policy of rounding down ages was in place. As such, people aged:

    15-19 were recorded as 15
    20-24 were recorded as 20
    25-29 were recorded as 25
    30-34 were recorded as 30
    35-39 were recorded as 35...and so on
 

[shirl100]

Hi again

www.freereg.org.uk has transcriptions for East Pennard and there is no sign of a baptism in 1792 +/- 10 years for John Mitchell with variant spellings. So it's possible he wasn't baptised or it just wasn't recorded, maybe checking Bishops Transcripts might be another option but according to freereg there are gaps.

Using genuki to look at nearby parishes to East Pennard there are these baptisms on freereg within 10 miles:-

Wraxall All Saints 1m from East Pennard John Michell 3 May 1789 parents James and Rabbidge Mitchell - buried 8 May 1798 so it's not him

Barton St David 5m from East Pennard John Mitchel b 5 Oct 1787, bap 28 Oct 1787 parents William and Sarah

Wincanton St Peter and St Paul 10m from East Pennard:-

John Mitchell 31 Aug 1794 parents John and Susannah
John Mitchel 9 Jan 1795 mother Susanna, base born

Might be worth trying to trace those families through to at least rule them out.

On freereg again, John & Ann baptised their son James Pike Mitchell in East Pennard 1814 but the abode states Doulting which according to genuki is about 5m from East Pennard. Might also be worth checking parishes around Doulting for John's baptism.

Shirl

[Sherbertrose]

Hi Shirl,

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I have tried several times to move this branch of my tree forward and not got very far. There is also a John Mitchell born 1794 Frome which I did think was a possibility but  there does appear to be a John Mitchell who is alive and showing on the 1871 census which fits with this place of birth so I think this is another John which can be crossed of the list.

I think a process of elimination is the best and possibly the only way of getting any answers. However, it did occur to me that John may not have been baptised - this, I am fairly certain, is why I cant find another of my ancestors in Leeds.

Once again thank you for trying to help.

Sandra