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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 21:08 GMT (UK) »
There are two places of worship for Presbyterians; one at Ballytrain, in connection with the Synod of Ulster, and of the third class; and the other at Crieve, in connection with the Seceding Synod, of the second class

http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/A/Aughnamullen-Cremorne-Monaghan.php
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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 21:15 GMT (UK) »
There are two places of worship for Presbyterians; one at Ballytrain, in connection with the Synod of Ulster, and of the third class; and the other at Crieve, in connection with the Seceding Synod, of the second class

http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/A/Aughnamullen-Cremorne-Monaghan.php

Thanks for the link.  If you can't find much about your actual ancestors individually its always interesting to learn about where they lived and the times they lived through.

Presbyterian church history in Ulster looks very complicated-I'll need to find some time to get my head around it!
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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 21:56 GMT (UK) »
I'd be more inclined to look at Ballybay 1st Pres. as that church existed from 1698..and  where there is a Forde gravestone. It's reasonably near to where they lived.

Snail mail..
1st Ballybay Presbyterian Minister
The Manse
Clones Road
Ballybay
Monaghan
Ireland

asking if they have records. Enclose an email addy, and also that you would make a Donation (marked as a donation) if they could assist you.
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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 22:50 GMT (UK) »
If you use the Irish Google website www.google .ie and then   "Derrygooney" AND "forde"  assearch term you get a pile of stuff.

E.G.  http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014909/005014909_00551.pdf

AND MUCH MORE!
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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 23:10 GMT (UK) »
FOUND ON WWW.GOOGLE.IE

William Ford 23 hus Labourer Prot both Monaghan, Armagh Employed by George Cherry, a relation, Melbourne Employed by George Cherry, a relation, Melbourne arrived 16 Feb 1844 on the Wallace
Sarah Ford 27 wife Prot both Monaghan, Armagh arrived 16 Feb 1844 on the Wallace
Mary Ford 1 died Monaghan, Armagh arrived 16 Feb 1844 on the Wallace
Caroline Ford 0 born on board and baptised 22nd January 1844 at Sea, House servant Prot both Oxfordshire arrived 16 Feb 1844 on the Wallace
William Ford and Sarah had baptised Caroline and Robert 1848, Henry 1852, James 1856
There is a baptism record for a William Ford, baptised 17th August 1821, father Henry Ford, address Derrygooney, parish Aughnamullen.
William Ford wed Sarah Trew in Apr 1842 in County Cavan, Ireland. (Sarah Trew was baptised about 1817 in County Cavan, Ireland, died on 2 Aug 1901 in Wickliffe, VIC, Australia and was buried in 1901 in Wickliffe Cemetery, Wickliffe, VIC.)
William Ford came on the Wallace (864 tons) sailed from Liverpool on 3rd November 1843. The Fords were small tenant farmers in county Monaghan, Ireland, where the landowners had reduced the acreages of the tenant farms. No longer able to sustain a living for the family, in 1843 William and his 3 brothers decided that they must seek their fortunes outside Ireland. William, his wife Sarah Trew, and their infant daughter Mary arranged their assisted passage (18 pounds and seven shillings was recorded as bounty for each adult) on the Wallace, Departing with the ship's Master, Andrew Main, were a crew of 40, and 335 passengers (208 adults, 44 older children aged 7-14, and 83 young children under 7). In the tropics, diarrhoea broke out aboard the ship, and their daughter Mary died on 22nd November 1843 aged about 1 year. Sarah was pregnant at the time of departure, and gave birth at sea on 21st January 1844 to a baby girl - the ship's register records the birth of Mary Ford, but Caroline Ford is the name on the arriving passenger list. There had been 38 deaths recorded (11 adults, 1 older child, and 26 young children) from diarrhoea, dysentery and typhoid, and 5 births on the 15 week voyage, which arrived at Port Phillip on 16th February 1844
William never again had contact with his brothers, but thought that one went to North America, another to India, whilst the other's destination was unknown.  http://www.reocities.com/vic1847/f/f13.html
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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 01 November 14 02:01 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Hallmark, I might send them a letter (must remember how that works!)

Fortunately, our Fordes weren't forced off the land, and continue farming in the area to this day.  The Australian branch wasn't started until a third son without a farm to look after went in search of better things after WW2.
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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 01 November 14 07:50 GMT (UK) »
Possibly descendants of George who stayed, as per will??
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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 01 November 14 11:09 GMT (UK) »
Yes they certainly are.  George was one of five children, and he in turn had twelve, and together with the rest of his siblings they did a lot to keep Derrygoony well populated into the twentieth century! :)
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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 11 November 14 17:50 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Hallmark, I might send them a letter (must remember how that works!)

Fortunately, our Fordes weren't forced off the land, and continue farming in the area to this day.  The Australian branch wasn't started until a third son without a farm to look after went in search of better things after WW2.

No one is saying they were forced off the land BUT it does look like these left "voluntarily" because there were so many of them on the farm!
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