Patrick Smith/Margaret McPhillips Monaghan

[Elisshapark]

I am searching for information about a Patrick Smith b. circa. 1808 (son of Daniel and Margaret)and Margaret McPhillips (parents Peter and Bridget) who married in Monaghan and emigrated to Prince Edward Island in the late 1830's/early 1840's.  They had at least once child in Ireland, Peter born circa 1832, who survived. Their child Patrick (born 1848 in PEI) is my gg grandfather.  Thanks!

[J.J.]

Not that it helps a great deal, but if this Bridget is yours & she made the move with them then she was born circa 1844 Ireland https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4H5-5BP ( 1910 says immigration about 1872)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2VW-HGP

Sorry I see Sera/Sarah baptised 1842 P.E.I. so it was an error on Bridget's death cert. ( although she may still have been born Ireland) I did not see Patrick on the 1841 PEI, though. For other spellings baptisms of Sera & Patrick Jr. show parents AKA as Patt Smyth & Margret Mcphilips

[Elisshapark]

Thanks for this.  I have never come across her before.  Interesting she was in Cambridge.  I will definitely have to look her up.  Could have been a mistake writing Ireland. I will see if I can find a record of her in PEI.  Thanks a lot!

[J.J.]

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01edi  / with images/  basic info transcribed below, with images

Sera Smyth  (Baptism Card Index, 1721-1885)
baptism August 25 1842, PEI / parents Patt Smyth &  Margret Mcphilips
Not sure if Sarah on census  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2K5-J3D
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2JD-92W
 
Sarah A Smith b. Prince Edward Island
death May 21 1909, Cambridge, Mass. / parents Patrick Smith & Margaret Mcphillips
 
Bridget Smith  (Massachusetts, Deaths, 1841-1915) says birth 1844 Ireland as does the 1910
death October 15 1915, Cambridge, Mass. /parents Patrick Smith & Margaret Phillips
This one shows in 1880 and appears to fit altho says a widow, & Ireland birth?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHXS-LY1
 
Patt Smyth (Baptism Card Index, 1721-1885)
baptism September 3 1848, PEI  / parents Patt Smyth & Margret Mcphilips

Patrick E Smith / death March 14 1913, Boston, Mass.
birth Charlottetown, PEI,  /  parents Patrick Smith & Margaret Mcphillips /Says father born PEI?

added:
I can't find Peter on any census was he a painter as well?  If so, there is this immigration in 1872... altho says born PEI https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-22121-24219-0
(Where did you find info on him he remains elusive...)

adding: O.K. now I see him in 1880 , a painter with parents says b. 1836 Ireland
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHXR-92G

[mona lisa]

There is a McPhillips married in  Hope River / Rustico area of PEI Canada to Francois (Frank) Hache dit Gallant in 1854 - 1864 ish and they had a daughter Marguerite and a son Francois. She was his first wife of 4 and was dead by the time the son was 3. Many of the Irish from that era were from County Monaghan.

[J.J.]

St. Dunstan's Basilica  The records at P.E.I. archives have records that are not all listed for
c. 1830-90 baptisms 1830-1876 marriages, 1858-1876 burials.
http://www.archives.pe.ca/peiain/fondsdetail.php3?fonds=C165

Oh, say, could this turn out to be a brother for Margaret? also died Boston,
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWSR-KJM
Patrick Mcphillps, birth 1817 Ireland / death November 5 1873   Boston, Ma
single- Parents: Peter & Bridget...
Maybe same fellow https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXKP-DFJ

[Elisshapark]

Wow, this is great!  I will definitely have to put these new ones in my tree today.  I would say that would be a brother to Margaret.  For the first you mentioned, Bridget.  I think she was probably born in Ireland and the date is wrong.  The informer listed at the bottom is "Mrs. C Cormick".  That would be my g grandmother (her niece) Catherine Smith McCormack I believe.  The guy who wrote this seemed to drop the "Mc" off the surnames there.  I bet she didn't know the exact year she was born.  I hope I can find a naturalization for this new Patrick.  I believe they are from County Monaghan and found a Peter McPhillips and Daniel Smith in the courts there...
 

[J.J.]

Regarding your Trainor connection, not sure if you have her whole story....I saw that your Patrick Smith married Catherine Trainor...and one of her several siblings looks to be an Owen...There was an Owen who immigrated to PEI  who seems to have been followed ...but there was another Owen(1787-1882) and wife Catherine (1783-1879) & daughter Bridget (1820-1889) who are buried in the same cemetery as Anne Jane Ross Trainor.  Something to look into as could be a relly if not direct ancestor
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=trainor&GSiman=1&GScid=2340267&GRid=133994156&
adding: Looks as though I might be wrong as that Owen is with Patrick Trainor's on page in 1881, but not yours...  http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e325/e008113814.jpg

Also one of Patrick & Anne's children was named Anne Dunn Trainor...could be a clue to follow for an ancestor's surname?... http://www.rootschat.com/links/01edo/
How sad that their first 2 namesakes did not survive... Hmmm...interesting, unless they wrote it wrong in that entry, or my eyes deceive me... Edward was a late twin of Owen's born weeks later.
They moved around to different churches, so Catherine's bapt. could have been in one who's info is not online or was lost in a fire or?

[Elisshapark]

In regards to that: A couple of months ago I got my hands on a family sheet for the Owen from Donagh, County Monaghan.  My Catherine Trainor has no baptismal records in PEI.  Lost? Damaged? I have her marriage stating her parents as Patrick and Jane.  Then she is buried with a Jennie Trainor, daughter of Francis Trainor- on his marriage parents are also Patrick and Jane.  I have his baptism in PEI to Patrick and Ann Jane Ross.  The famiy sheet I have has the wrong info for Francis, confusing him with another guy and they were unwilling to change it to the correct info so I have my doubts already about my source:)  Will look into it.  Thanks!