Census look-up - Phillips in Bethnal Green?

[hampshire-grandma]

I have the following family in Bethnal Green in 1891, but cannot find any of them in 1901.

Summerford St Bethnal Green
Edward Phillips 29 General Dealeer born Bethnal Green
Jane      "         27                           "          "         "
Samuel  "          3                            "          "         "
John       "          it says 7, but should be 1      "        "

The first three may have died before 1901 census, but we know that John lived, and we have found him lodging in Southampton in 1911.

Can anyone help please?

Hampshire Grandma

[CaroleW]

Samuel was Samuel John baptised 15.1.1888 Whitechapel St Mary

John was baptised 20.11.1889 St Andrew Bethnal Green

[..claire..]

Hi

I don't think the parents died before 1899, these could be possibly other children from the same family

Ellen Elizabeth bp. 1 Nov. 1891 St James the Grt. Bethnal Green. Abode: 33 Brady Street. Father: General Dealer
Edward George bp. 21 Jan 1894 St Mary Whitechapel. Abode 13 Tapp Street. Father: General Dealer
James bp. 28 June 1897 St James the Grt. Abode: 7 Perth St. Father: Hawker
Joseph bp. 1 Feb. 1899 St Simon Zelotes, Bethnal Green. Abode: 15 Moss St.  Father: Dealer.

Can't find any of them in the census !!

claire

[karenlee]

Hi

Not sure if you can either prove or disprove relationship with this lady...

1901 Census Hertfordshire St Peter District Lunatic Asylum
PHILLIPS Jane unmarried aged 39 Retired Rope and Twine Winder born London Bethnal Green

Her marital status could well be in error here.

Added... there is also an 11mth old Joseph PHILLIPS in the Bethnal Green Infirmary 1901 Census

Cheers
Karenlee

[karenlee]

If we have the right children this could well be one found by claire.t


Marriage Register
St Luke
Chelsea
28th Feb 1920

Robert HAVES 27 Bachelor Railway Signalman 19D Lewis Buildings Father = John HAVES Labourer
Ellen Eliza PHILLIPS 28 Spinster of 19D Lewis Buildings Father = Edward PHILLIPS Dec General Dealer

Both bride and groom signed
Witnesses were Geo EARSTY? and Wm COOMBE R.H.

Cheers
Karenlee

[karenlee]

Might be more children...

Baptism Register
St Bartholomew Bethnal Green
Tower Hamlets

Elizabeth daughter of Edward and Jane PHILIPPS of 33 Somerford Street. Baptised 11th Dec 1895. Fathers Occupation Dealer


Baptism Register
St James the Great Bethnal Green
Tower Hamlets

John Thomas son of Edward and Jane PHILLIPS of 17 Collingwood Street. Baptised 7th March 1886. Born 13th Feb 1886. Father's Occupation Dealer


Baptism Register
St Mary Whitechapel
Tower Hamlets

Edward Samuel son of Edward and Jane PHILLIPS of 13 Cambridge Street. Baptised 19th Aug 1883. Born 27th July 1883. Father's Occupation General Dealer

[hampshire-grandma]

Wow! What a response.  Thank you so much everyone.  We will be working on all this info. A story passed down by the family was that the parents Edward and Jane died young (I think that there was a smallpox epidemic in Bethnal Green), and we think that John was put into some sort of naval training from a young age, so that may explain why we can't find him in 1901.

We cannot find death records for Edward and Jane.  I checked out the Jane in the asylum.  She was born in Bethnal Green but was living in Hertfordshire with her mother in a previous census, so she was born Jane Phillips, whereas Edward's wife was born Jane Vincent.

Many thanks again. 

Hampshire Grandma

[hampshire-grandma]

I forgot to ask all of you kind people ( who helped me with the Phillips) just how you did it.  I had looked on the IGI but no luck.  Did you find them online or at a Record Office?

Hampshire Grandma

[..claire..]

Hi

I think most people here will have a subscription with Anc* or FindMyPast.

claire