Catherine Malt / Evans nee Carroll

[rosie99]

Eliza was born in Hoole ,Chester - where / which Workhouse did she have her baby in ?...was it local to Hoole ??....

Hoole 

[garstonite]

So common sense tells us Eliza Evans should be around Hoole in 1881 census ??...I wonder if Henry has died and Catherine has re married and Eliza has taken the new husbands surname ?....she would be 11 in 1881 census ....

1878 at St Johns Chester - Frederick Joseph Smith marries an Eliza Evans ...is this marriage worth researching ??

[rosie99]

Just mentioning it in case - the age is out though, she could have reduced it because of the lodger

1891 - Boughton Ward, Chester   RG12/2861 f34 p62
22 Torvin Road
Catherine Evans 48 Head widow Charwoman bn Ireland
Joseph Nev... 47 lodger widower bn Waterloo, Liverpool

[tracey clarke]

In the 1881 census there is a Catherine Armstrong from Ireland living in Swallow St with several children - one is called Eliza. Whats the possibility that it could be them if Henry Evans has died and Catherine has remarried ?

[rosie99]

Henry Evans is mentioned on the 1885 workhouse record for Eliza if that is the correct Eliza

[rolnora]

In the 1881 census there is a Catherine Armstrong from Ireland living in Swallow St with several children - one is called Eliza. Whats the possibility that it could be them if Henry Evans has died and Catherine has remarried ?

I think this one can be discounted, Catherine Armstrong is also on the 1871 census with 3 year old Eliza, she was born in Stockport.  Catherine's maiden name was Gilligan

[tracey clarke]

Thanks for all the help very much appreciated as I seem to be going no where with this.

If my Eliza was in the workhouse and destitute do I assume both her parents have possibly died?

She did have a half brother and sister Thomas Malt born abt 1859 and Mary Ann Malt born abt 1861. I assume that they were unable to help or possibly had died.

I have not read much about workhouses and girls giving birth there. Would Eliza have had to have got somewhere to go in order to leave?

[rosie99]

If my Eliza was in the workhouse and destitute do I assume both her parents have possibly died?

Henry is mentioned on her workhouse entry.  (I still can't see him though)
She appears to have been admitted for the birth. As Henry is mentioned maybe she returned to him with the child.

I don't know much about workhouses either. My gt grandfather was born in one in 1861 though his mother had been living with her widowed father 8 weeks earlier. 10 years later he was there as his mother had now died and I have no idea where grandfather had gone

[tracey clarke]

Have sent you a PM.

On marriage certificates if the bride or groom's father was deceased would it say that on the record?