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Charles Hatter Emigrated from England to NZ between 1871 and 1875
« on: Sunday 12 January 14 22:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone, I had posted on the Oxfordshire Board looking for additional details on an elusive relative!  They have been most helpful and with that assistance, I have been able to narrow the emigration period to between 1871-1875. 

Charles Hatter was from the Wiltshire area, an agricultural laborer, born around 1847 to Edmond Hatter and Elizabeth Granger (perhaps Grainger).  He had a younger brother Henry, who it appears stayed in the UK and a younger sister Mary who also apparently stayed in the UK. The kids were orphaned when Charles was around 10 and they lived with the Cottle family for a while.

By 1876 Charles was in the Kakanui North, Otago area marrying Janet Ainslie Messer (that is another story entirely!).  Charles was employed as an agricultural labourer.  I have quite a bit of information on him once in NZ (none of it particularly positive, but it is at least interesting), but I am still at a loss as to when/how he arrived in NZ.  I have searched countless passenger lists to no avail.

If anyone could provide me with ideas on how best to proceed to figure out when, which ship he arrived in NZ on I would be most grateful.
Regards and thanks in advance!
Carol

Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: Charles Hatter Emigrated from England to NZ between 1871 and 1875
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 January 14 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The exact date of his marriage was  10/5/1876

1876/3130 Janet  Messer to Charles  Hatter 

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Re: Charles Hatter Emigrated from England to NZ between 1871 and 1875
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 January 14 22:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Janette - thanks for the info. 

Yes, I have a copy of his Death Cert and their marriage Cert.  Have a fair bit on them in NZ, but there's about 5 or 6 years unaccounted for until he turned up and got married.
Regards,
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: Charles Hatter Emigrated from England to NZ between 1871 and 1875
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 January 14 23:03 GMT (UK) »
I see there is a file at Dunedin Archives about an assault

http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=9053438

Where is he buried?

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Re: Charles Hatter Emigrated from England to NZ between 1871 and 1875
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 January 14 23:35 GMT (UK) »
Yes it would appear our Charlie had a bit of a temper on him.  Lovely chap! 
He died in 1925 and is buried in Palmerston, Otago.  I have a copy of his probate docs but nothing of much help in there. 

He had three daughters with Janet (one died in infancy), Mary (my great grandmother left home early and never returned), Janet Ainslie jnr appears to have stayed around with her mother then married fairly late in life.
Regards, Carol
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: Charles Hatter Emigrated from England to NZ between 1871 and 1875
« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 January 14 07:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dragonlady,

I can't see any prospects on FamilySearch's New Zealand, Immigration Passenger Lists, 1855-1973

Nor is there any prospects on the NZSG Kiwi Index, Victoria (AUS) to NZ - Passengers 1852-1923.

Under the heading 'How long in New Zealand' on his death certificate, does it provide any information?

Do you have a transcription of his Intention to Marry Notice? His 'length of residence' might supplement the death certificate information.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Charles Hatter Emigrated from England to NZ between 1871 and 1875
« Reply #6 on: Friday 17 January 14 07:12 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked the online newspapers?  There are a reasonable amount available online.  If you check ship sailing dates, person's names, places of departure, places of arrival....do these as separate searches and be aware there will be transcription errors.

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Re: Charles Hatter Emigrated from England to NZ between 1871 and 1875
« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 January 14 07:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Double irish,

I looked as well, but there are only two citations, all too late.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Charles Hatter Emigrated from England to NZ between 1871 and 1875
« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 January 14 10:55 GMT (UK) »
I think he must have been a stowaway!  (I followed him on your other thread, and wondered then if he stowed away on a ship)
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
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Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
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