Reply 1: Thank you Shanew 147 I will order some records, I wondered what other information might be available.
The only background we have on Margaret Fox comes from documents, as all our parents are not living. You can see the confusion on birth year below; however, her birthday is April 19.
Marriage cert Liverpool August 1919 lists her as 26 years old (b. 1893). States Nicholas Fox as f. and Master Mariner as occupation (true or not?)
Canada Ocean arrival March 1922 lists her as 30 years old (b. 1892), and born in Liverpool and father born in England; however Margaret was known to disown her Irish heritage (don’t know why).
Margaret’s daughter’s birth certificate (Isabel) August 1925 lists Margaret as 32 years old (b. 1893) and b. in Dublin Ireland.
Death cert Vancouver, Canada March 1947 lists Margaret as 57 (b. 1889/90) and b. in Dublin Ireland, but father as English (death cert is only as good as the survivor’s knowledge).
Reply 2/5/8/11/13: Thank you Dathai, I thought as well it is easy to mistake Mich… and Nich… but I don’t think twice for 2 different children. As, well I can clearly read Michael, unless it was being transcribed from someone else’s writing.
I also noticed the link with the Smiths. I will look at the links more closely. I knew of one child’s death, but wow. These would be good to see why they died.
I did find an Ancestry entry for the Whitty/James marriage but was hoping to find a church record with all that great collateral info.
Rely 3/4/6/7: Thank you Annclare, The tree in ancestry that you are referring to is mine. This family is such an enigma that I find it easier to add candidates to the tree and then rule them out and delete them. I should delete Sarah Ann Worstenholme and Mary Holf (wife of William).
I have looked everywhere for a marine record and none can be found (was he a mariner or was it a story?)
Related to two separate couples: Michael Fox and Margaret Shelly were living in Margaret Shelly’s parents home at the time of Catherine’s birth 57 Mabbot, which is on the marriage record as the Bride’s parents when she married Nicholas (curiouser and curiouser). Michael & Margaret lived at 59 Mabbot when Margaret Mary Fox was b. 1890.
I have not looked at Malta, as everything points to Dublin, but will. I have noticed the relationships of the Fox’s, Shelly’s, and Smiths. Seems either a Smith is sponser to a Fox/Shelly or a Shelly / is sponser to a Smith. I hadn’t wanted to muddy the water, but had missed the Nicholas Fox as Alicia’s parents, but now that I look I see Nicolaus and Margarita, which I have seen this spelling in much earlier decades and wonder if they are not the same couple.
I also saw in inscription in the column and tried to find an Adam Alexander in Liverpool, but did not find and I see you did. Thank you.
Thank you so much Shanew147, Annclare, and Dathai, I was thrilled to read your replies & get some direction. I don’t get to research for the next week but will be ordering some records.
Best regards,
Alleson